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Removing the media as an independent voice increases the power of the voices left. Meaning, one less force to counterbalance corporate power. Same reason Trump hammered on the media — one less voice to speak against him.
I'd buy that except the major media outlets are the corporate power.
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Instead of trying to engineer trust, why not actually be trustworthy, admit your mistakes and become better?
Because for many people, the making of mistakes is what makes you unreliable and untrustworthy. Superficially, they have a news agency with seemingly no errors in one hand and one with a thousand corrections in the other. Unless you are willing to consider that the errorless news agency is just not admitting it, one seems nice and consistent and reliable and one seems clumsy and stupid.
>Most educated people believe that premier news outlets are inherently trustworthy. The switch from printed to online distribution changed the game completely. If you are selling printed copies, you are physically limited in how much text you can cram into a single issue. So, publishers (in non-yellow segments) compete on the ability to create well-researched informative content that will be relevant to a large group…
I dont think this exactly applies to the NYT and the New Yorker which are subscriptions based. I do think subscription based journalism can be just as pernicious. The most profitable route now is to find a niche group and produce content that they want. In general people "want" the objective truth, but its so much more tantalizing when it's spun to confirm your biases. There's likely a point where people will pay to…
What exactly is the "Save Journalism Committee," and what's it's agenda? The link "What is the Save Journalism Commitee" at the bottom of their pages brings you to this nothingburger: https://savingjournalism.substack.com/about , https://archive.is/pY8rd . The author's Quora profile describes him as a "Messaging Consultant" ( https://www.quora.com/profile/Jeremy-Arnold-4 , https://archive.is/ch3uz ), which sounds lik…
From his Quora profile: "In support of making the internet less wrong, I happily encourage and reward all corrections (details and past examples here)." Last I checked, major American newspapers barely run corrections anymore. Anyway I've watched Jeremy Arnold do this project for a while and I really do believe his heart is in the right place.
I'm not so sure about that, I see them fairly often and I'm not even looking for them.
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Critical thought. Other journalists and free speech can be censored by private companies that have no obligation to follow any due process. During information war critical thought is the most important asset, without which you're as good as illiterate.
Um, in countries where the government can play the ultimate arbiter of truth in speech they also get to determine what due process is, which usually is exactly what suits them. Private companies reflect the values of their shareholders and customers, which at least is made up of citizens without the coercive and exclusive power to say, lock you up for your reporting, or literally kill you and your loved ones over you…
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If you’re in the US, or any country with comparable speech/press protection: the same rights that give them protection to publish. I know it’s unpopular here but social consequences punishing bad press behavior are effective, just like punishing bad politician or famous people behavior. This is sometimes paraphrased as “vote with your feet” or “vote with your wallet”, but lately it’s been maligned as “cancel culture”…
I thought cancel culture was about trying to get individuals fired for things unrelated to their work?
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Interestingly I just had an unrelated discussion on goodreads about that. The first mentioned author of the NYT article is supposedly a cybersecurity expert. The article lacked any evidence and called the company russian and obscure, they edited that but it’s still on archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20210106195835/https://www.nytim... I left a goodreads comment on the NYT authors latest cybersecurity book cal…
This makes me wonder, 3 branches of government exist to balance each other out. Journalism stands on its own, what’s the counter balance to journalism?
What exactly is the "Save Journalism Committee," and what's it's agenda? The link "What is the Save Journalism Commitee" at the bottom of their pages brings you to this nothingburger: https://savingjournalism.substack.com/about , https://archive.is/pY8rd . The author's Quora profile describes him as a "Messaging Consultant" ( https://www.quora.com/profile/Jeremy-Arnold-4 , https://archive.is/ch3uz ), which sounds lik…
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The same MSNBC that shat on AOC up till it was obvious she was going to be a progressive darling/favorite among a portion of MSNBC viewers, mocked Ron Paul repeatedly*, and have never covered Bernie Sanders close to the way they cover the Democratic establishment? MSNBC is nothing like the lefts Fox. I completely agree with the point of hating the “other” guy’s news. I don’t think the vast majority of people distrust…
Trump supporters feel the same way about Fox that you feel about MSNBC. That’s why there’s OAN.
Perhaps that number is bigger than I’m imagining, but I doubt it. Edgy comments online saying Fox sucks for a week because they didn’t do a good enough job isn’t the same thing. That’s still on Fox’s side.
I don’t think the comparison is the same. Maybe for Democracy Now and some progressive YouTuber/online shows.
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I use RSS feeds for Reuters's business section for business and finance news and the AP for general news. I guess I don't know how either of them handle retractions or updates but I like my news to be as dispassionate as possible and I think Reuters and the AP are as close to that as you can get. I'm sure the journalists for both have their biases but at least they aren't as obvious as other outlets.
Didn't Reuters kill off their RSS service? How did you set it up? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23576022
The free version of it meets my needs perfectly.