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Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by rawbot »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #37
3327 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good on him. Takes courage and an established product to do this. Good example of standing up.

Unfortunately this opens the door to unscrupulous devs publishing their own knock-off versions - or even repackaging the official Terraria Windows game and passing it off as their own work (resource/asset swaps, etc). My impression from reports I've read about all the major App Stores is that they won't put much effort into processing violation notifications or takedown requests when the publisher or developer filing…

The Stadia version is the one cancelled. I doubt Google doesn't have a tougher screening process for games for Stadia, since they are the ones running the game. It is highly improbable that a knockoff game will land on it.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by turbinerneiter »

As long as the cost of false-positives is lower than the cost of human support staff, they will keep doing this stuff.

Millions of pages of EULA, but not a single line in there to protect the user? No right to get your data once banned? No right to appeal or even be informed about the reasons?

Just imagine if Google ran the Justice system! They would suspend peoples drivers licenses without their knowledge and then throw them in jail because of a two strike rule when they get caught driving with a suspended license.

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Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by ahepp »

warent wrote: post #59
jug wrote: post #55

This makes me anxious about my long time Gmail address. Back then I got it just because it and Google was cool, and their services had a good reputation. It was a different Google back then. If they had launched it this year I would never have got one because chances are it would have been cancelled by 2025. Gmail is really the only valuable thing that actually ties my life to Google. And it's not that hard to replac…

I've been considering getting a new email address on a personal domain so it can be more portable and I can change providers. Does anyone recommend any alternate providers with custom domains, or some OSS? Is it possible to host your own email server on a NAS or RPi something?

I switched from gsuite to protonmail, but I kinda wish I had checked out fastmail

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by 88840-8855 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #40
88840-8855 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When my outlook.com account was banned by Microsoft, i wrote a letter to ms in Germany. got a reply 4 weeks later without any solution. account was never unblocked. since then i am not trusting Microsoft and not purchasing any of their products.

What did they say in the letter?

The letter said that my account was banned because of violation of their terms. no further details. no options for the solution of the problem.

until today i don't know what the issue was. i only can assume that some nude pictures of my ex gf were uploaded to skydrive a few days/weeks before the account was banned.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by scrollaway »

sparkling wrote: post #30

Having core parts of your personal computing or business computing rely on Google or AWS infrastructure is a systematic risk. Unless you are are racking up a $50k bill every month, you are simply too small that anyone there would care.

Utterly untrue. AWS is not a 'systematic risk', that's absolutely ridiculous and I can't even begin to address that statement.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by deanc »

rochak wrote: post #2

Is there really no way for a user to get in touch with a human agent? I read that Google automates the flagging and disabling of accounts but given how many people have their livelihood linked to these accounts, Google must have done something. It makes me scared how deep I have dived into the Google ecosystem. Time and time again I think about transitioning to someplace else but don’t know how to. It seems too daunt…

Nope. My Adsense account was banned almost 9 years ago. I followed their appeals process, gave all the information required, and received automated responses every time. I repeatedly appealed over the last 9 years, receiving the automated rejections every time, until finally a few weeks ago for some reason they approved the appeal and my account was reinstated :shrugs:

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by HenryBemis »

spicyramen wrote: post #51

Hey Google here is a feature: account reputation, anyone doing business with you, has that flag enabled and human reviewers will be supporting them

This is the exact opposite of what Google/Apple want to do. Why pay a human to do something? Let the computer do the thing, and a Google-human will listen only of the victim-human will yell loud enough. This is their tiering system.

On the other side though, Google cannot have 1 FTE per 1000 'clients' (paying-humans and/or product-humans). As a 'father' here wrote, you stay or you go. Or at least keep the personal stuff out ('15years of gmail' - WHY???) and leave the app-stuff within Google (or Apple for that matter).

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by chmod775 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #48
dsissitka wrote: post #38

Some context: > However, they were hit with a Terms of Service violation via email. They assumed it was issued accidentally, but three days later, their entire Google account was disabled without any warning or recourse. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/terraria-studio-re-logic-...

> They assumed it was issued accidentally That seems like a dangerous assumption to make.

Given it's the Terraria YouTube account it has to be either stupidity or accidental, both on Google's part.

My imagination fails trying to picture a scenario where you could justify suspending that account.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by hedora »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #47
thow-01187 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is a problem inherent to the business model Google/Facebook run. Stating a truism - to make a billion dollars, you either have to get $10 from 100M sales, $10k from 100k sales or $10M from 100 sales. Although each option leads to the same revenue, there are major implications as for the amount of support and attention you can spend on each customer. Google/Facebook/Twitter obviously run the "$10 from 100M sa…

> Google/Facebook/Twitter obviously run the "$10 from 100M sales" model - meaning the only way they can provide profitable support or moderation is via inanimate algorithms, and deal with the PR fallout when they go wrong. That isn't necessary though - other companies like Microsoft, Oracle, and SAP also have tens of millions - to billions - of customers all with their own support requirements: the solution is simple…

Microsoft (used to?) pick up the phone if you called about an issue with Windows. If you actually called them, then they lost money on your consumer Windows license.

Say what you will about how crappy Win 9x was, but they definitely drove the average tech support load to much less than one call per machine.

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