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Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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> our societies need tools that can survive popular histrionics. Getting owned by some sanctimonious prick at Amazon is not pro level play. Seems like banning communities that led directly to an insurrection in congress should be one of those tools, no? I mean, that part was a bit more than just "histrionics" by "sanctimonious pricks". I know you won't buy this because of the environment that we find ourselves in, bu…

I'd argue the insurrection narrative is as much of a farce as Kim Jong Il hitting 11 hole-in-one strokes on a golf course, because if you voice doubt about the absurdity of the claim, it marks you as a dangerous subversive. Everybody knows it, and they're just too afraid to say so because they're worried they will get put on a list. Some conspicuously unarmed people trespassed and even managed to bring camera crews.…

> Everybody knows it, and they're just too afraid to say so because they're worried they will get put on a list. Some conspicuously unarmed people trespassed and even managed to bring camera crews.

Can you spell out what exactly you are implying here? I don't feel included in the "everybody knows it".

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Are messages that you sent to someone else still your data? If I sent you a letter, a court wouldn't tell you to burn it and any copies on my request.

I'd be with you if each message was end to end encrypted and/or exclusively physically stored on the users devices. But it isn't. It's on Discord's servers.

That doesn't change the fact that they still also belong to someone else who may very well want to keep them.

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> We believe privacy is paramount and free speech essential, especially on social media. this, from their "technical difficulties" notice, should have been enough for him to be fired on its own. requiring some users to provide government identification, building such weak security that anyone can read and archive private messages, and not stripping out damaging meta-data from media posts are three ways to not provide…

> requiring some users to provide government identification, building such weak security that anyone can read and archive private messages, and not stripping out damaging meta-data from media posts are three ways to not provide privacy. Exactly. They weren't really interested in true privacy or free speech, they were just using those keywords to attract customers.

This is misleading. The ID requirements were there to provide a 'verified' account status similar to Twitter's blue check mark. It wasn't some arbitrary requirement. I bet Twitter requires this as well for the verified status.

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True if you do it within the copyright period, however I'd imagine that (barring further Disney shenanigans) by 2121 the author's copyright would have expired and it would be in the public domain.

Current copyright extends to 70 years after death of the author, so the letter written today will still be copyrighted in 2121 if the author is alive for 30 more years from now.

Good point, but does anyone under 50 still write paper letters? :P

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The problem is that twitter and Facebook already exist and do their jobs well enough and have moderation Any parler type thing is only ever going to get the worst of the worst of possible users. The folks who get kicked off Facebook and Twitter aren't the people you want to build a business on

That is asserting unsettled matters of fact. Twitter's moderation has become partisan enough that it might be desirable to build a business on people they have kicked off. Notably Trump - while he was supremely unpopular on the left, opinion polling suggests he is leaving a more popular legacy than, eg, George W Bush. Maybe even George H.W. Bush. That is a pretty decent foundation for a business.

> Twitter's moderation has become partisan enough

That's also an unsettled assertion. Especially when talking about kicking off Trump, since they had been letting him break the rules for years. Removing his exemption is arguably a reduction in partisan bias.

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> requiring some users to provide government identification, building such weak security that anyone can read and archive private messages, and not stripping out damaging meta-data from media posts are three ways to not provide privacy. Exactly. They weren't really interested in true privacy or free speech, they were just using those keywords to attract customers.

This is misleading. The ID requirements were there to provide a 'verified' account status similar to Twitter's blue check mark. It wasn't some arbitrary requirement. I bet Twitter requires this as well for the verified status.

Could you post without providing that ID?

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> requiring some users to provide government identification, building such weak security that anyone can read and archive private messages, and not stripping out damaging meta-data from media posts are three ways to not provide privacy. Exactly. They weren't really interested in true privacy or free speech, they were just using those keywords to attract customers.

This is misleading. The ID requirements were there to provide a 'verified' account status similar to Twitter's blue check mark. It wasn't some arbitrary requirement. I bet Twitter requires this as well for the verified status.

They shouldn't have had verified status.

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You're not actually answering the question. Suppose that the dominant platforms (e.g. Facebook) are not free speech platforms. They boot off a hundred thousand people. 10% of them actually deserved it and are militant jackasses who ruin everything. Now someone else creates a "free speech" platform. Everybody is allowed in. Well, 80% of the initial users are going to be a subset of the ones who got kicked off of the i…

I did answer, because the internet started off as your proposed experiment. It didn't work. They didn't get diluted, they just got louder, circumvented, harassed and escalated. They aren't accidentally toxic, they are actively / aggressively toxic. Moderation didn't come before toxicity it came in response to it. Therefore, moderation doesn't cause / focus toxicity. If you want to address this, you need to look at ed…

And moderation came _very quickly_. Usenet started seeing significant use in 1983. The first moderated Usenet group was created in 1984 (insert mandatory weak Orwell joke). And Usenet was eventually largely replaced by very heavily moderated webforums, and then by things like reddit where the popular subreddits that people actually want to use are mostly fairly heavily moderated.

It turns out that people don't, as a general rule, actually enjoy using totally unmoderated fora; they tend to quickly fill with spam and awful stuff.

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> requiring some users to provide government identification, building such weak security that anyone can read and archive private messages, and not stripping out damaging meta-data from media posts are three ways to not provide privacy. Exactly. They weren't really interested in true privacy or free speech, they were just using those keywords to attract customers.

This is misleading. The ID requirements were there to provide a 'verified' account status similar to Twitter's blue check mark. It wasn't some arbitrary requirement. I bet Twitter requires this as well for the verified status.

Agreed, but to the last point, if anyone is trying to make the comparison that Twitter is a free speech platform they are a complete lunatic.

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FWIW, I recently found out that AirBnB now requires government id to be shared as verification after not having logged into AirBnB since 2014. I tried to delete my account but the option is not available or may be hidden behind the forced verification requirement.

GDPR requires such an option. You could try to use a VPN to appear to be from the EU.

I don’t think a VPN will fool them into thinking you are from the EU when you’ve submitted, say, a California ID.
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