Parler CEO says he was fired by board • Hacker News Board

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by edbob » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:39 AM UTC

dilyevsky wrote: post #36

edbob wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like they had prepared to move from AWS to another mega-provider like GCP or Azure. The site is too large (and probably poorly optimized) to just spin up a few DO droplets.

Going with another major scale cloud provider was definitely poor planning there

I get that everyone just wants to shit on Parler, but AFAIK they didn't host any content that wasn't present in far greater quantity on Facebook and Twitter. It would have been reasonable to expect to have access to the same platforms as those companies.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by seabrookmx » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:39 AM UTC

mountainb wrote: post #58

pocw wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh, it's almost like no provider in America is cool with your platform being used to plan an insurrection. Or open calls for violence against and murder of elected officials.

Like Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter? Parler was a scapegoat to deflect attention from the rest of this category of software.

Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter all had moderation (whether its effective is another debate).

It's hardly an apples-to-apples co.parison with Parler.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by burnte » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:39 AM UTC

dkdk8283 wrote: post #40

aurizon wrote: post #20

Differing points of view. The UK model where you can stand in Hyde Park and speak your mind spread to speakers corners in many places. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakers%27_Corner You could speak, and it could be written down and hit the papers, where you were interviewed and reported - by an announcer/reporter.Then comes Radio - again a reporter/announcer, same with TV. In other words a chain of accountability w…

Speakers corner used to be an American belief but censorship is now in fashion.

No, it's not. Freedom of speech never came with a freedom from consequences, nor a guarantee to a broadcast platform. You're still free to stand on the corner with a "God hates fags" sign or a "kill democrats" sign.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by rdxm » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:39 AM UTC

lol. if a tree falls in the forest......

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by ed25519FUUU » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:40 AM UTC

colesantiago wrote: post #8

spoonjim wrote: post #4

If you’re going to be the CEO of a terrorist propaganda site, your first job is keeping the site up. ISIS would have fired al-Baghdadi too if he couldn’t get his message out.

Gab.com is doing a great job at this.

Gab is holding on by a thread called cloudflare. I’m SURE there’s strong internal pressure from within cloudflare to drop them as well.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by pbourke » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:41 AM UTC

pocw wrote: post #48

babelfish wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most Silicon Valley darlings run disaster recovery exercises simulating setting up a datacenter from scratch in less than 24 hours (not that Parler should be compared to any of these companies, clearly)

Yeah but that usually means switching from AWS to GCP not, build a data center from scratch oh and by the way nobody from electricians to truckers will work with you because your platform was used to plan a violent attack on America.

Yeah, all those liberal electricians and truckers.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by fooey » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:41 AM UTC

vmception wrote: post #68

aahortwwy wrote: post #6

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I can think of plenty of SV darlings that would take far longer than a month to recover from such an event. That said, given the content Parler was hosting they really should've planned for something like this, so it makes sense to terminate the CEO.

Are the permissionless decentralized tools really not prepared for any level of throughput yet? Genuine question Are there any tools for hosting large volumes of user generated content in a decentralized permissionless way? Even if you have to pare down the front end and reduce reliance on some infrastructure concepts, is there any way to do it right now?

Not if you want anyone to actually use it or if you want to be able to monetize it.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by bassman9000 » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:41 AM UTC

ghayes wrote: post #57

pocw wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but that usually means switching from AWS to GCP not, build a data center from scratch oh and by the way nobody from electricians to truckers will work with you because your platform was used to plan a violent attack on America.

Right, so step #1, don't plan a violent attack on America?

Broad accusations aside, don't shift the goalposts.

No one can setup basic infrastructure beyond the datacenter in 24h.

Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:41 AM UTC

rektide wrote: post #3

jimmydorry wrote: post #2

Not surprising, when your first and foremost duty as the headhoncho should be doing what you can to keep your site online. It's been almost a month that the site has been down for now. Yes, an outage should be expected when you get deplatformed at a network level... however they could not put up anything more than a status page in this time.

Rebekah Mercer is done being embarrassed by you! (Reminder: she's the board that fired him.)

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Re: Parler CEO says he was fired by board

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Post by jerrysievert » Thu, Feb 04, 2021, 2:42 AM UTC

> We believe privacy is paramount and free speech essential, especially on social media.

this, from their "technical difficulties" notice, should have been enough for him to be fired on its own. requiring some users to provide government identification, building such weak security that anyone can read and archive private messages, and not stripping out damaging meta-data from media posts are three ways to not provide privacy.

if this was truly their mission, then their platform was already doomed, and a full housecleaning of most of the leadership should probably be done, not just the CEO.

I don't care what side of a political spectrum you come from, or whether you support the site's mission or what it became, these failures should be unacceptable in any company.