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Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by Koiwai »

MattGaiser wrote: post #3
yellow_lead wrote: post #2

I've posted this a lot, but I think it's important for those who claim Uyghur camps are some sort of Western propaganda. This site documents primary source evidence of victims in Xinjiang. Testimonies from families and friends, court documents, photos, etc. Information on specific camps and seeing victims by city/village is newly available. What's happening there is horrible and consists of many human rights violatio…

> which China says exist for the "re-education" of the Uighurs and other minorities. Even China does not deny the camps. The disagreement almost seems to depend on whether "re-education" is considered sinister. In the West? Obviously. In China? That is apparently a normal thing to admit to doing.

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Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by grandinteg3 »

Koiwai wrote: post #30
dijksterhuis wrote: post #12

This was genuinely horrifying to read. Donation link for the Uigher Human Rights Project (mentioned in the article): https://uhrp.org/support

No I don't donate to political agendas, And I despise anyone advocating for them.

Is advocating for human rights a political agenda?

Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by Koiwai »

grandinteg3 wrote: post #32
Koiwai wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No I don't donate to political agendas, And I despise anyone advocating for them.

Is advocating for human rights a political agenda?

In this case, I think it is.

Do you think BLM is a political agenda?

Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by dirtyid »

New atrocity propaganda by Tursunay Ziyawudun

2019 “I was taken to a hospital to undergo a [sterilization] operation, but because I have always suffered from a gynaecological condition the doctor said I could suffer complications that include death, so they spared me,” she said.

2020 she was injected until she stopped having her period, and kicked repeatedly in the lower stomach during interrogations. She now can’t have children and often doubles over in pain, bleeding from her womb, she said.

2021 Mass rape somehow she left out previous 2 years.

2022 Guards eat babies.

Camps are as real, so are propaganda about them by the usual suspects.

Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by luminaobscura »

Koiwai wrote: post #30
dijksterhuis wrote: post #12

This was genuinely horrifying to read. Donation link for the Uigher Human Rights Project (mentioned in the article): https://uhrp.org/support

No I don't donate to political agendas, And I despise anyone advocating for them.

donation page reads: "Your support will allow us to: - Provide emergency humanitarian relief for Uyghur refugees - Interview concentration camp survivors and help tell their story to the world - Campaign to end "business as usual" while Uyghurs are suffering crimes against humanity"

Which one these do you despise exactly?

Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by Paradigma11 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #25
anm89 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a weird word game to play. So you are pointing out that the government supports there own policy? In this potentially makes it not sinister? Yes, the obviously make an attempt to normalize their policy, just like every government does with every policy. The problem is what they are doing is wrong.

I am surprised that the Chinese government so openly admits to behavior much of the rest of the world finds horrifying. I was also commenting on how people deny the camps exist even when the Chinese themselves admit they exist.

The chinese government did deny most of the camps for a long time and only after repeatedly confronted with overwhelming evidence to the contrary changed their tune to widespread (re)education camps.

Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by jhanschoo »

bob_theslob646 wrote: post #11

I don't understand how so many countries would not ban together to stand up to China. Why won't they do it? This literally seems like a modern day concentration camp without the death.

Considering that the international community doesn't / couldn't do anything substantial about NK and the Rohingya, beyond sharp words, well, it's not surprising. Of course, note that China had an interest in the status quo on those crises.

Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by Koiwai »

luminaobscura wrote: post #37
Koiwai wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No I don't donate to political agendas, And I despise anyone advocating for them.

donation page reads: "Your support will allow us to: - Provide emergency humanitarian relief for Uyghur refugees - Interview concentration camp survivors and help tell their story to the world - Campaign to end "business as usual" while Uyghurs are suffering crimes against humanity" Which one these do you despise exactly?

Trust everything you read on the Internet, sure.
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