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Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by xnyan »

_9hey wrote: post #6

This needs wider awareness. Communism is awful in every form. The Chinese government is not guiltless!

>Communism is awful in every form

Does not follow. If I can give you several examples of capitalist neo-liberals doing terrible things, then by this line of reasoning capitalism is bad in every form, right?

What economic aspect of China is particularly communist anyway? They wave a red flag around and call their president/prime minister/tsar/whatever a general secretary, but they clearly are or soon will have the most successful capitalist economy in human history.

Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by anm89 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #3
yellow_lead wrote: post #2

I've posted this a lot, but I think it's important for those who claim Uyghur camps are some sort of Western propaganda. This site documents primary source evidence of victims in Xinjiang. Testimonies from families and friends, court documents, photos, etc. Information on specific camps and seeing victims by city/village is newly available. What's happening there is horrible and consists of many human rights violatio…

> which China says exist for the "re-education" of the Uighurs and other minorities. Even China does not deny the camps. The disagreement almost seems to depend on whether "re-education" is considered sinister. In the West? Obviously. In China? That is apparently a normal thing to admit to doing.

That's a weird word game to play. So you are pointing out that the government supports there own policy? In this potentially makes it not sinister?

Yes, the obviously make an attempt to normalize their policy, just like every government does with every policy. The problem is what they are doing is wrong.

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Post by MattGaiser »

anm89 wrote: post #23
MattGaiser wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> which China says exist for the "re-education" of the Uighurs and other minorities. Even China does not deny the camps. The disagreement almost seems to depend on whether "re-education" is considered sinister. In the West? Obviously. In China? That is apparently a normal thing to admit to doing.

That's a weird word game to play. So you are pointing out that the government supports there own policy? In this potentially makes it not sinister? Yes, the obviously make an attempt to normalize their policy, just like every government does with every policy. The problem is what they are doing is wrong.

I am surprised that the Chinese government so openly admits to behavior much of the rest of the world finds horrifying.

I was also commenting on how people deny the camps exist even when the Chinese themselves admit they exist.

Re: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Post by ricc »

One of those things that puts me closer and closer to the edge of misanthropy. I mean, Nazi Germany just happened not more than a hundred years ago. We, the different countries of the world, are supposed to already know how this kind of things unfold and that we should not just stand here watching!
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