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Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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Wikipedia reports that Han and Uighur are mutual friends socially in their home region (around 70% and 80% reported some relationships), and also notes some historical issues, but nothing contemporary. Why does China govt hate them so much, uncut version?

There were several terrorist attacks by Uighur separatist groups. The Chinese authorities use Western War on Terror rhetoric to justify the ethnic cleansing, warrantless mass-surveillance and censorship.

It's a shame Western states institute the repressive laws that they do, as for the most part, the Western states are vastly better than the CCP on civil liberties, and the few deviations from an otherwise strong commitment to liberal democratic principles prevents the West from having the kind of moral high ground it would otherwise have.

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It seems like China ought to face economic consequences for this at least, assuming it's true (which I don't have any reason to doubt). Hopefully Biden does something substantive, and ignores any consideration of the optics of being "tough on China" when that was Trump's thing. This and how he deals with the Myanmar coup are going to be big early tests of what his foreign policy is going to be like. Social media comp…

Most of us can only do a bit, but acknowledging the truth helps. Refuse to fund companies like Disney and the NBA which bend over backward to defend and minimize the actions of the PRC. Support China's rivals. There are scores of great Taiwanese companies to buy from, not to mention South Korea and Japan.

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I don't understand how so many countries would not ban together to stand up to China. Why won't they do it? This literally seems like a modern day concentration camp without the death.

They figured out that they can get away with genocide as long as they do it in slow motion. The end result is the same, the disappearance of the Uyghurs as a people, but it takes decades instead of years. That's why they are sterilizing so many people, while keeping many imprisoned indefinitely with no opportunity to start a family. The torture and rape is just incidental to having a million or so non-persons imprisoned.

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I've posted this a lot, but I think it's important for those who claim Uyghur camps are some sort of Western propaganda. This site documents primary source evidence of victims in Xinjiang. Testimonies from families and friends, court documents, photos, etc. Information on specific camps and seeing victims by city/village is newly available. What's happening there is horrible and consists of many human rights violatio…

Even if it is western propaganda, doesn't mean it's false. Just like any Chinese/Russian/etc propaganda might highlight the abuses of the US state. As individuals, regardless of which country we happen to live in, we shouldn't immediately dismiss any country's propaganda (including our own) just because it's propaganda. Does each side have an incentive to exaggerate or lie about the other? Of course! But if abuses are really happening the opposing side would be dumb not to propagandize it.

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Wikipedia reports that Han and Uighur are mutual friends socially in their home region (around 70% and 80% reported some relationships), and also notes some historical issues, but nothing contemporary. Why does China govt hate them so much, uncut version?

There were several terrorist attacks by Uighur separatist groups. The Chinese authorities use Western War on Terror rhetoric to justify the ethnic cleansing, warrantless mass-surveillance and censorship. It's a shame Western states institute the repressive laws that they do, as for the most part, the Western states are vastly better than the CCP on civil liberties, and the few deviations from an otherwise strong comm…

It doesn’t seem enough to blame the entire group. Terrorist attacks are often nation- or religion-related, but no one in the world takes course to destroy all the population, as the article states.

It would also be nice if other people who are annoyed by my genuine question answered it or explained what’s wrong with it.

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