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Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by Held_der_Arbeit »

numpad0 wrote: post #78
dukeofdoom wrote: post #51

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I'm always amazed how badly designed software is. To the point that anyone trying to use the damn thing could point out problems within 10 seconds. I was shopping for a replacement bathroom fan on home depot website. I just want to find one that will fit in the old hole. You would think I would be able to filter by the actual size of the box. But no, its not apparent at all what their listed measurements refer to. Ju…

Shops like you described for B2C markets existed in the past. All voted out by wallets.

Are you sure it was wallets, and not shorted stocks?

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Post by Held_der_Arbeit »

techbio wrote: post #92
millstone wrote: post #77

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I think Spotify envisions a speaker which always plays exactly the right music at all times, reflecting the current mood and anticipating what's next, like a film score. That would indeed be incredible if it worked.

This comment made me wonder how many movies could succeed without the soundtrack.

Or tv series without the laugh track?

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by 12bits »

swilliamsio wrote: post #147
12bits wrote: post #59

Stuff like this will just have me on bandcamp exclusively. Spotify has been a terrible experience, but for the sake of my teenage son, we decided to get a family account. Spotify is too obsessed with telling me how to consume music, I don’t need an album shuffled by default, the artist picked the track listing for a reason. The way Spotify cues music is bizarre. Their user interfaces are confusing and clunky. For a p…

> I don’t need an album shuffled by default, the artist picked the track listing for a reason I don't get you. Isn't the shuffle button on or off based on the last time you changed it? If the shuffle is on, and you play an album, then you'll play it shuffled. I'd much rather that than Spotify trying to predict whether I want to play something shuffled or not, and auto-changing the button status.

I never shuffle yet its always nudging me to shuffle, mobile or desktop.

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by 12bits »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #149
12bits wrote: post #59

Stuff like this will just have me on bandcamp exclusively. Spotify has been a terrible experience, but for the sake of my teenage son, we decided to get a family account. Spotify is too obsessed with telling me how to consume music, I don’t need an album shuffled by default, the artist picked the track listing for a reason. The way Spotify cues music is bizarre. Their user interfaces are confusing and clunky. For a p…

>> I don’t need something to spy on my mood and suggest music, I’ve figured that out - Dub techno while working Ambient while reading HipHop when hanging with the homies and Slayer when I’m working in the garage! Out of topic a bit but this reminds me of the famous dictum, attributed to Charles V (H.R.E.): I speak in Latin to God, Italian to Women, French to my Men, and German to my Horse. https://en.wikiquote.org/wi…

Music is deeply personal to me, it's taken decades to fine tune a perfect genre based symbiotic relationship

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by ChrisIsTaken »

petterparker wrote: post #144
ChrisIsTaken wrote: post #142

How about suggest songs based on what I've liked but haven't heard? Brain dead filter bubble repeatedly playing what I've already played is why I don't subscribe to this garbage service.

They do this. I've found plenty of new songs and artists through spotify.

No, they put you into a bubble and show you what you've already clicked just like youtube and google display ads.

I only get new music when I manually load a playlist.

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Post by dntrkv »

Kaze404 wrote: post #133
dntrkv wrote: post #69

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How does Spotify prevent you from listening to music you want to?

I find that streaming services push me to this weird loop that I never feel like I have to go out of my way to discover music, because it's always pushing me music the platform wants to promote. Of course they're not literally preventing me from doing anything, after all I can just search for the music I want, but often times I would find myself hours into music I've never heard of because the platform decided to pla…

You can disable that feature if you don’t like it. Personally, I like it especially when I have a short playlist but would like to continue playing music in a similar style.

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by dntrkv »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #84
dntrkv wrote: post #73

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Scary? Hardly. Most of the time Spotify's recommended music is just other songs by my favorite artists that I've already listened to 100x, on their platform. If they can't predict what I will like outside of the artists/genres I already listen to, I doubt they can make any predictions based on infinitely more noisy data points. They can't even differentiate artists with the same fucking name.

The problem is they're likely to catalog and sell this information to 3rd parties even though they're probably even getting your emotional state wrong.

Why would Spotify sell this data? If the data is bad, nobody will buy it. If the data is good, they would want to hold on to it.

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Post by corobo »

IneffablePigeon wrote: post #113
millstone wrote: post #7

Here is the referenced July paper [1]. Spotify has a very cool feature called Community [2] where users can talk about what they want Spotify to do. The most upvoted ideas are things like "change my username" or "filter explicit songs." My personal wishlist is a "don't play this song again" button [3] and native Homepod support [4]. The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state,…

I've given up even wanting extra features, I just want them to fix the glaring bugs they've had for years. My current favourites: - if you sort a playlist you're playing, then click the album art to find the currently playing song, it will skip to the position of the track in the _unsorted_ list - playlists over a certain length just won't play via Spotify Connect. There's a couple of playlists I just can't play on m…

The thing they have that lets you change device within the app was absolutely flawless for me until a few months ago

I'd be happy with them just not breaking the things that work.

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Post by corobo »

shaoonb wrote: post #46
xxpor wrote: post #38

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Spotify has all of their resources focused on podcasts, because that's where they'll be able to become a real aggregator and start making Real Money. It's a damn shame because the open nature of podcasts is one of the most appealing things about them. I get where they're coming from though. If they weren't spending ungodly amounts of cash on podcasts (cough joe rogan) they could probably buy pandora (just guessing, n…

I don't understand this business model. How does taking podcasts (something people are used to getting for free with few or no ads) and breaking the currently open ecosystem there is around them benefit anyone, least of all Spotify themselves?

> podcasts (something people are used to getting for free with few or no ads)

This is an inaccurate assumption is how. Podcasts are audio adverts with interesting segments haha.

Ok maybe not that bad, but it's nowhere near 'few or no ads'

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