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Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by ridaj »

millstone wrote: post #7

Here is the referenced July paper [1]. Spotify has a very cool feature called Community [2] where users can talk about what they want Spotify to do. The most upvoted ideas are things like "change my username" or "filter explicit songs." My personal wishlist is a "don't play this song again" button [3] and native Homepod support [4]. The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state,…

Don't worry, patents are hardly ever indicative of a company's actual priorities.

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Post by renewiltord »

falcolas wrote: post #52
renewiltord wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use YT Music's Mix feature to discover music and it's pretty good. If my supermix would figure what to play when, that would be pretty dope.

What emotion should Spotify be shooting for? Good music can cause a lot of different emotions; dopamine can come from many emotional sources. Even no emotion is fine. Music doesn’t need to exercise our brains all the time. Or even every time you listen to a particular song.

I don't particularly care about the details. I want the mixes or radios or discovers to be interesting to me. I'll give them lots of information if it will help them get it right.

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Post by ttt0 »

dorkwood wrote: post #30

Link is dead for me. Does anyone know how this works? Is it: Spotify asks how I'm feeling, I click the frowny face, and then it recommends me some sad songs?

https://archive.md/rTcAg

> Streaming music platform Spotify has won a patent enabling it to snoop on users’ speech and even background noise in order to gauge emotional state and location type to serve up the appropriate soundtrack. Not creepy at all!

> Spotify has received a patent that will allow it to use speech recognition and sound analysis to assess a user’s demographic attributes, determine their emotional state, and even glean insight into their location. The information will be used – hypothetically, at least – to pick the perfect song to play without requiring any conscious data input from the listener.

Straight out spying, basically. It's what people were warning about with Siri, Cortana or whatever it was called. And it was dismissed with "I don't care, I'm not doing anything illegal and I have nothing to hide".

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Post by folkrav »

xxpor wrote: post #38
dv_dt wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify would do better to get back to basics on song suggestion instead of trying to guess emotional state - Pandora still finds similar songs by musical elements better than Spotify. A good example to try is to select a song that is out of genre for an artist - an acoustic version of a song that usually doesn't do acoustic for example. The suggestions for similar songs from Spotify all have to do with the artist ge…

Spotify has all of their resources focused on podcasts, because that's where they'll be able to become a real aggregator and start making Real Money. It's a damn shame because the open nature of podcasts is one of the most appealing things about them. I get where they're coming from though. If they weren't spending ungodly amounts of cash on podcasts (cough joe rogan) they could probably buy pandora (just guessing, n…

Yet their client still utterly blows as a podcast player and manager...

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Post by spideymans »

titzer wrote: post #45

Outrage now. In 2 years we'll have forgotten what it was like before every website in the world did this. In 5 years your toaster will have people personality and you will fucking hate it.

Mark my words: Your future Tesla will surveil your emotional state to determine whether you want to be in the drive or reverse gear.

Oh wait...

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Post by pgt »

Spotify being tonedeaf, or: how to ensure nobody buys your hardware...ever. They are pulling a Samsung Smart TV.

Customers don’t like having their speech recorded to be recommended “relevant content”.

What is Daniel Ek doing? Who files surveillance patents in the midst of the biggest privacy-oriented comms migration in history?

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Post by ttt0 »

12bits wrote: post #59

Stuff like this will just have me on bandcamp exclusively. Spotify has been a terrible experience, but for the sake of my teenage son, we decided to get a family account. Spotify is too obsessed with telling me how to consume music, I don’t need an album shuffled by default, the artist picked the track listing for a reason. The way Spotify cues music is bizarre. Their user interfaces are confusing and clunky. For a p…

That's what happened to YouTube. It used to be fine, everything just worked, but they just couldn't stop themselves from fucking it all up.

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Post by HDMI_Cable »

folkrav wrote: post #64
xxpor wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has all of their resources focused on podcasts, because that's where they'll be able to become a real aggregator and start making Real Money. It's a damn shame because the open nature of podcasts is one of the most appealing things about them. I get where they're coming from though. If they weren't spending ungodly amounts of cash on podcasts (cough joe rogan) they could probably buy pandora (just guessing, n…

Yet their client still utterly blows as a podcast player and manager...

It would be better if they just split off the podcast app from the main one, it's too cluttered as is.

Re: Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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Post by dntrkv »

Kaze404 wrote: post #47

This is insanity. I'm glad I gave up on this streaming nonsense a while ago when I realized it made me listen to music the platform wants me to listen, instead of music I want to listen.

How does Spotify prevent you from listening to music you want to?

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Post by bombela »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #51
airstrike wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state, they just want rather basic features to work. Obligatory “If I’d asked customers what they want, they would have told me a faster horse.” People may not realize the value of this new feature because they have not even imagined it.

I'm always amazed how badly designed software is. To the point that anyone trying to use the damn thing could point out problems within 10 seconds. I was shopping for a replacement bathroom fan on home depot website. I just want to find one that will fit in the old hole. You would think I would be able to filter by the actual size of the box. But no, its not apparent at all what their listed measurements refer to. Ju…

This is so painfully true. Try sorting screws by size next...
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