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India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#191

Just don’t bother trying to understand Indian politics, especially if are living outside the country. It is a mess beyond any understanding and just a waste of time.

It is rather simple.

China and India are rivals. China fuels these anti-governments protests by using small political parties on the field, 50 cent army on the internet and surrounding narrative in the media.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#192

> Agriculture employs about half of India's 1.3 billion population I am not familiar with politics in India, so my question is: how does the BJP manage to push laws that (seem to) adversly affect the interest of half of the population? Isn't that political suicide for the BJP?

Not BJP fanatic, but as I see these laws. These are pro-farmer and anti-madis laws.

There was monopolies of mandis(farmer are restricted only to sell here) now government allows them to make contract or sell anywhere.

I wrote posts on it : https://iamamitmurari.medium.com/farm-laws-farmer-issues-and...

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#193

> Agriculture employs about half of India's 1.3 billion population I am not familiar with politics in India, so my question is: how does the BJP manage to push laws that (seem to) adversly affect the interest of half of the population? Isn't that political suicide for the BJP?

It's not clear if the laws do "adversly" affect interest of all farmers. The laws target APMC's monopsony which has been already diluted by many states, which means that farmers are not totally dependent on APMC. Hence in many areas farmers are largely indifferent and in certain are clearly supporting the laws[1]. In Punjab and Haryana, the mandatory procurement by FCI(regardless of the demand) and the APMC system wo…

As always for any polarizing topic in India on which the current ruling party has strong opinions, it's better to disregard Indian media, since they always carry a biased, pro government narrative.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#194

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The RSS does not want India, they want Bharat, they are for a Hindu nation. This isn't even a hidden fact, but in every basic dossier on India.

Where Hindu is a nationality/culture and not a religion. India is a name given by slavers. Bharat is a very very old concept.

That lovely linguistic sleight of hand means that people called a region bharat. By the criteria how come Sri Lanka is not included? Or how do you reconcile the 7 sisters being part of that? For that matter the word Europe exists - are you arguing that states should act like nations a la the EU?

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Please read again. I said, that violence is the reason 100s of people are in delhi jail now (guilty or not). & Please read again. Modi Bhakats are wishing the 1984 style sikh killings, same as their Mother india's murder started. They are not on sides of Sikh, or Muslim, or even Indian. They want India to be a piss drinker's Hindu Rashtar. I am defending & one of those group, who want India, its government & operatin…

Sources, sources and not your disgustingly twisted propaganda. Who is wishing Sikh killings? God stop it.

You asked for sources for Modi bhakats wishing death upon Sikhs in 1984 style. You literally asked Who is wishing Sikh Killings! I provided the sources. Only 6. There are millions of tweets & videos, where BJP RSS Hindu are saying We Miss Mother Indira.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#196

> Agriculture employs about half of India's 1.3 billion population I am not familiar with politics in India, so my question is: how does the BJP manage to push laws that (seem to) adversly affect the interest of half of the population? Isn't that political suicide for the BJP?

They stoke communal sentiments, pit Hindus vs Muslims, make it seem like the minorities are out to destroy the Hindus, and a vast majority of the population just laps it up.

They have a giant misinformation network, which has recruited everybody from bots to popular actors to popular sportspeople and they spread out misinformation in a highly organized manner. Very effective at spreading FUD which translates into votes come election time.

Even now, on Twitter and Reddit you'll find thousands of posts about how the protesting farmers are khalistani terrorists.

Goebbels would be proud of what the BJP have accomplished.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#197

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Yes, agreed, & thats why 100s of Sikhs are now in Jails around Red Fort, without any access to Lawyer or Phone Calls. But Modi Bhakats are tweeting all the way Missing Indira Mummy. They also want to burn Sikhs just like any power hungry party, be it 1984 like Congress, 2002 like Godhra.

Modi bhakts would be on the side of sikhs surely. Sikh community is the reason Hinduism survives in large parts of India. The people you are calling “sikhs” were throwing policemen off heights. Do they get to kill without impunity? What are you defending here exactly?

No, they are & always wished death upon non Hindus. & Carried it too. Godhra, 1984, & many others.

No need to add sikhs in Quotes, those are Sikhs. Many of them are in jails. Do you want to be the judge & executioner on the spot? Any mob who damages or hurts, should be controlled, & then tried. But in India, if that mob is Hindu, then it never happens.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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> protected India's farmers from the free market What does this line mean in the article? The author is highly biased against free markets.

With good reason. The free market is not effectively regulated against collusion in India. On the 'free' market, the middle men band together, fix prices, and the farmer ends up getting the short end of the stick. The mandis were originally established to prevent the farmers getting completely squeezed by scrupulous middle men.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#199

Sadly the Indian govt passed the laws without taking opposition and farmers in confidence. They passed the law very bluntly. Thats from where all this started. It's very simple thing to solve but current govt want to make it political. They are basically saying MSP(Minimum selling price) is not affected. But farmers protesting why you include this in bill. But because of govt ego millions of farmers are protesting fo…

This is second comment of mine in this thread, not a troll but normal human who wants to see what people see up here and what I'm missing.

Can you help me point out which laws passed have MSP mentioned. I actually read all three laws but couldn't find mentioned of MSP or MSP alternation.

Just want to know is your opinion based on newspaper or news channel or you actually did some research on it. No offense just want to understand.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

#200

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No, they said all people who are ALREADY here (on it before 2014) and were promised protection and citizenship at the time of partition will have that promise fulfilled. Everybody and people of all kinds get citizenship using the same rule as before, there are no bans or changes.

All who are NOT Muslim. Its on I think 3rd page of the CAA bill.

You know, it's funny, then someone brings up Hazaras or Ahmedis and it's like that scene in Baadshah where the clock strikes 13:30 (not trying to invoke any baara baj gaye stereotypes by stealth sorry in advance)
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