It seems all those deplatforming started really recently with trump/parler and turned into a witch hunt. It's now totally out of control and we start to look like CCP
Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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> Google is LEGALLY required to provide a justification for removal 30 days before application removal. You mean this? 2. Where a provider of online intermediation services decides to terminate the provision of the whole of its online intermediation services to a given business user, it shall provide the business user concerned, at least 30 days prior to the termination taking effect, with a statement of reasons for…
Hm, yeah, I think you are right here. That said, the reason for removal provided by Google seems to be nonsensical ("abusive content somewhere on Matrix", really?), so mediation should be effective here. This particular reason easily applies to an application like Google Chrome, and EU regulation 2019/1150 requires differential treatment to be documented, which I don't think it is in this case.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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I don't think that can be the full rationale behind whatever got it removed, if that were the case, they'd absolutely have removed Signal quite some time ago.
haven't followed matrix implementation for a while. Last time I checked their e2ee was still not quite ready to deserve that name[1]. is it a solved problem now and is crypto used in matrix now truly e2ee so that it can be comparaed to Signal. Maybe I've missed the research papers suggesting otherwise but it seems comparing Signal w. Matrix is apples and oranges (even when just talking about e2ee and ignoring the cen…
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It used to be that if you even uttered the words "freedom of speech" here you'd be instantly downvoted and jumped on by five people saying that censorship is only when it's done by the government. Some people still double down on supporting the censorship, but at least no one even mentions that free market argument anymore.
edit That didn't take long.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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Yes, I'm doing a custom react client integration. AA has to prepare for black swan events from every angle and this is a perfect example of one. When you have 100,000+ employees, it's not trivial to just switch up communication platforms.
If you need to prepare for Black Swan events, doesn't it make sense to have your own channel to distribute APKs to all devices? Why would you rely on the Play Store at all?
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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Actually Ubuntu is not less usable than Windows 10. Ex on intel NUC - wifi on Ubuntu : out of box - wifi on windows : plug ethernet, install driver manually. Old printers works better on Linux, eg when driver do not work on windows 10. Libre Office outof box, Office : where is my key ? ...
- Can I install my "favourite program" on Linux? Well sure, it's supported on X, Y and Z! - Oh but I'm on distro A. Oh sorry, that's not supported. But here's a post by some guy on some forum who says he made it work by doing a bunch of complicated things no one understands.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#597So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…
We received a generic update at 05:31 UTC confirming that the app had been suspended due to abusive content (Sexual Content and Profanity: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ... ); we're following up to explain how Matrix and Element works and get this resolved.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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We received a generic update at 05:31 UTC confirming that the app had been suspended due to abusive content (Sexual Content and Profanity: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ... ); we're following up to explain how Matrix and Element works and get this resolved.
This is insane. This jeopardizes every email, xmpp, matrix, etc; basically any 3rd party application.
For all the chaos, the Internet continues to be surprisingly consistent with one set of rules for BigTech and friends and another set of rules for the rest.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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should have built your own phone with your own store - hn hivemind
Can we just please pass some legislation to break Google and Apple's app installation monopoly already? Sure, they built the phones, doesn't mean we can't demand more rights than they decide it's profitable to give us (or put another way, just because the king's ancestors founded the country doesn't mean we shouldn't demand freedom and democracy).
No, we can't solve the problem that way: the very same problem wound remain: EU and 5/9 Eyes want e2ee backdoored or gone. If you start legislating which apps are allowed, you're putting yourself even more at mercy of gov regulation.
And the regulation would be blanket, with little to no way of sorting things out through unofficial channels as it can be done with Google. It'd be "backdoor or jail", not even sideloading apps to help you.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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I concur. But if we have a platform that is actually suitable for the community to work on, we can get to that point. Much like Ubuntu made desktop Linux a viable prospect for many people, after being enabled by Debian, I could see a future libre smartphone being enabled by the work done on PinePhone.
Well maybe, but even Ubuntu / Debian aren't workable for most people. I've used Linux and FreeBSD since the 90s and I'm still pleasantly surprised when my printer works out of the box. They're great for developers, but they've been unable to provide a usable and simple alternative for most people. Imo, partly because a lack of incentives since developers tend to create for themselves. Partly due to fragmentation lead…