Who cares if we can't dictate what the terms of phone usage are.
Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
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Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't pretend like you're patronizing them. You're using a free browser. There's nothing they've done or can do to affect your experience within the browser, and it still remains an open browser. There's no moral hangups here beyond the ones you imagine for yourself.
If I'm not patronizing them, who is? Why would a browser want to get into the censorship business?
Google is, and people purchasing their other products are. You and I are at best enjoying the fruits of their labour.
>Why would a browser want to get into the censorship business?
Is having an opinion getting into a business now? It was a pretty bad article and I don't care for it, but please explain how they're "getting into the censorship business".
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#233Is this google starting to test the waters when it comes to arbitrarily kicking out software they personally don't like? (open source, decentralized, privacy oriented etc.) I might of course be exaggerating a bit here, keep that in mind. - Element and Matrix are growing but still not equipped to fight back at large against this, so it is unlikely to create too much negative press - If Google starts to catch too much…
They kicked out Paytm in India because they were offering "lottery" prizes in the same way that their Google-competitor Gpay was.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#234These actions have been so fast and furious and brazen that you have to wonder: They obviously see people as cattle, but are they right? Or, do they have an ace up their sleeve that makes the answer irrelevant?
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#235A lot of people seem to believe that there’s much more to this than there really is. Google has hired a bunch of 28 year old kids in HR and PR, that never used Usenet, that never used IRC, that barely remember AIM, that had a smartphone before they had their own laptop, that don’t understand the internet or technology . And they’re the ones making these decisions. There aren’t rooms full of Google PMs and programmers…
There are plenty of people under 30 more of the "hacker" æsthetic, who independently adopt Linux and have a seething contempt for social media and streaming titans and data hoard and play Dwarf Fortress and roguelikes and what have you.
Some of them are even in the disaffected, alt-right or anti-SJW crowd[0] (but those are generally more like under 20, I think).
The ones who live on their phones and Macbooks and don't understand technology are normies, of which there are more since CS has become much more popularized and pop-culturally embraced, I think. There's plenty of those in their 50s and above, too, just less-so at FAANGs.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#236Is this google starting to test the waters when it comes to arbitrarily kicking out software they personally don't like? (open source, decentralized, privacy oriented etc.) I might of course be exaggerating a bit here, keep that in mind. - Element and Matrix are growing but still not equipped to fight back at large against this, so it is unlikely to create too much negative press - If Google starts to catch too much…
Seems like the first step to kicking out competing web browsers, if the browsers don't moderate what you browse.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#237Opt out. No Google. No Facebook. No Twitter. No Amazon. You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. You can't change how they operate. But you can change how you operate.
Personally, I heavily rely on Google and Amazon. All my emails, purchases, photos, and browsing goes through them. Opting out would mean uprooting gigabytes of data to other services, which takes time to research, backup, and transfer. And even then you can't fully get rid of them, because switching to Apple from Android costs money, and I am not willing to root Android. This is merely my personal situation, but sayi…
I agree that going cold turkey on every trace of these orgs would be unrealistic. There's a lot to be said for locking down phones and shopping locally, but taking control of the assets those orgs hold is where it really pays off no matter who you are.
Migrating email is intimidating, but alleviates the highest cost risk and is actually pretty painless. In my own case, I started a Fastmail account and told it to use my own domain and sync from my gmail account. I didn't have to commit to anything until I felt like it. After a couple of weeks I started lazily updating a few subscriptions as they got forwarded from gmail, and replying to people with 'hey, check it out this is my new email'. Now, Fastmail could vanish and I'd be temporarily inconvenienced for only as long as it took to staple my domain to some other email host. Losing access to my gmail account before making that switch would have been a disaster.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#238It seems all those deplatforming started really recently with trump/parler and turned into a witch hunt. It's now totally out of control and we start to look like CCP
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did it: - LineageOS + MicroG and F-Droid for mobile. - NextCloud (and DAV) running on an old laptop for calendar, contacts, and file storage. The mobile app uploads all my photos automatically. It backs up to Backblaze -ProtonMail with a custom domain for email. Amazon is pretty avoidable. Shipping has gotten faster and cheaper everywhere else at this point. At least for the rural place I am. I'm not particularly t…
What phone did you load LineageOS on? Do you know of any guides for it?
>What phone did you load LineageOS on? Do you know of any guides for it?
Not GP, but I'd been using LineageOS on my HTC OneMax. I like it a lot.
Here's a list of supported devices:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
Click through the links on the above page for install guides.
Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store
#240So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…
You, like Parler, have been targeted by the powers that be. You may have nothing else in common other than that but, you're in the same boat it seems.