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By the way, "Foxy Droid" does the same job as F-Droid but is much less annoying. Available on F-Droid.

i like g-droid as well since it lets you bookmark apps so you can check them out later

And the app search on G-Droid is so much better than the main F-Droid app.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Yes, I'm doing a custom react client integration. AA has to prepare for black swan events from every angle and this is a perfect example of one. When you have 100,000+ employees, it's not trivial to just switch up communication platforms.

If you need to prepare for Black Swan events, doesn't it make sense to have your own channel to distribute APKs to all devices? Why would you rely on the Play Store at all?

that’s a lot of tooling to build for a single application—plus not everyone is tech savvy and installing from non-standard locations requires more user support

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Whats wrong with F-Droid?

It allows only free and open source apps, which might be a no-go for some.

They allow adding alternate repositories, but the ones I've come across have all also only allowed FOSS apps. I wonder if it's a policy any repo has to follow or if it's possible for someone to create a non-FOSS repo too.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…

Parler was a warning shot. But you didn’t listen. In fact,you probably supported it.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…

should have built your own phone with your own store - hn hivemind

lol... This is true

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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> No one wrote anything about the capitol being under attack or people storming the capitol[.] Because no one attacked or stormed the capitol during those protests.

I don't know what to say. For weeks people were roaming the streets, smashing windows, cars, beating people up, etc. ???

The Capitol is a literal building in Washington DC, which is the seat of the United States legislative. Even if it _was_ true that "people were roaming the streets smashing windows" when Trump was elected, no one was storming the Capitol building, which is why no one wrote anything about people storming the Capitol...

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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It seems all those deplatforming started really recently with trump/parler and turned into a witch hunt. It's now totally out of control and we start to look like CCP

No, it started with facebook being myspace with nazis and nudity banned; developed through a few waves of Google search reprioritization and the sanitization of Reddit(i.e. normie 4chan); eventually became open bans of radical Islam, Russian/Chinese political speech and commentary, leading into the Great Youtube Demonetization.

The Trump/Parler ban is largely the chickens coming home to roost; that crowd energetically supported all of this that wasn't personally against them, a lot of the modern US right is second-generation inspiration from the anti-Islam "Ground Zero Mosque" controversy and people like Pamela Geller (long forgotten.) Another anti-Islamic precursor to this has also been the constant anti-Palestinian activism at every university, and a good example of the career direction of the people who energetically participated in that is Bari Weiss, who now cries about cancel culture (which is both real, and responsible for her entire career.)

Now, with all the recently converted lefty Millennials minted over the last two elections still mostly seeing the world through the lenses of Obama Democrats, they've come to agree that the only real problem is that not enough people are censored. That's unanimity from left, right, and center.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Those might be the exceptions, at least for now. Ever since Firefox's crusade against IE the majority of people seem to still know there are different ~programs~ apps to access the internet with. As long as Chrome is not the default in the overwhelming amount of the operating systems, this might even stay like this, which is why I'm extremely unhappy that Android ships with Chrome these days and not with a thin gui o…

> As long as Chrome is not the default in the overwhelming amount of the operating systems, this might even stay like this, which is why I'm extremely unhappy that Android ships with Chrome these days and not with a thin gui on top of the system webview, like it used to. That is also why I was rather sad when Microsoft announced that they won't develop their own browser engines any more. I disliked IE as much as anyb…

> With Edge switching to Blink, essentially becoming yet another partially-degooged Chrome

Now it sends half of your data to Google and the other half to Microsoft. That's an improvement, they decentralized spyware.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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If you need to prepare for Black Swan events, doesn't it make sense to have your own channel to distribute APKs to all devices? Why would you rely on the Play Store at all?

that’s a lot of tooling to build for a single application—plus not everyone is tech savvy and installing from non-standard locations requires more user support

A 100K-sized company is going to have a BYOD or corporate device issuance program with tie-in to MDM, which effectively functions as a private appstore (the DPC (device policy controller) (itself an app) can silently install apps (as in, download APK from $anywhere, hand to PackageManager) without confirmation, etc).

MDM infra is big bu$ine$$, but DPCs are quite simple to write.

(Psst. They also let you read CPU usage on Android 7+ (sadly not per task, but at least with per-core granularity). The catch? Installing a DPC requires a factory reset. xD)

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