Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

331–340 of 988 posts

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

#331

Post by manquer »

flunhat wrote: post #268
manquer wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Op said they there is nothing else in common. They are in the same boat as parler in the sense that another communication platform not owned by a big corp is being targeted and removed. Matrix likely will come back for some of the reasons you mention . But fact is google and apple arbitrarily without warning or notice remove apps from their store. The stores should be considered utility like electricity google should…

> parler in the sense that another communication platform not owned by a big corp Parler is owned by the Mercer family, of Renaissance Technologies fame, one of the most successful hedge funds in existence. They are personally worth tens of billions of dollars.

Still not even close to the trillon+ worth of google or apple.

Also just cause they worth billions means they will back parler with billions. Parler itself is pretty small fish financially speaking

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

#333

Post by blondin »

Arathorn wrote: post #3

So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…

sorry this is happening to you guys. i hope this situation gets sorted out.

not saying i agree with the decision here, but hn is sometimes so quick to blame google.

what surprised me though, is that you guys are aware of abusive content on the network and even put a "moderation" guide in place. so much good faith in people here...

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

#334

Post by duskwuff »

Santosh83 wrote: post #318
Arathorn wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. https://hydrogen.element.io works very well as a PWA, but doesn’t have push support yet.

HSTS preloading blacklists may at some future point, block PWA as well. The real problem is indeed how much power society has given these corps. It's time to take back some power or we will never be able to.

> HSTS preloading blacklists may at some future point, block PWA as well.

What on earth are you talking about?

1) As far as I am aware, there is no "HSTS preloading blacklist". I'm not sure what that would even mean.

2) HSTS preloading is not a prerequisite for creating a PWA. Nor is presence on the HSTS preload list (not "blacklist") an obstacle to creating a PWA.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

#335

Post by kitkat_new »

edrxty wrote: post #319
Arathorn wrote: post #3

So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…

My comment elsewhere got buried but it might be useful to you. Pattle also appears to have been removed. Ditto and FluffyChat at the moment appear to still be up on the store though. For those unaware, these are all Matrix clients.

Afaik Pattle is discontinued

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

#336

Post by unnouinceput »

0x10c0fe11ce wrote: post #292
zepto wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google ditched that app too. If you move from iPhone, where would you go?

I’m seriously considering ditching my iPhones for any Nokia dumb phone. But what we really need is a mobile OS that is really free with no marketing BS, ideally BSD derived.

You mean Ubuntu touch?

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

#337

Post by feanaro »

edrxty wrote: post #260

It appears they've also removed Pattle, but Ditto and FluffyChat are still available at this time. Odd that they'd only remove half of the Matrix clients available...

Wasn't Pattle removed for a longer time? I know the developer stopped working on it some time ago.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

#338

Post by KirillPanov »

js4ever wrote: post #238

It seems all those deplatforming started really recently with trump/parler and turned into a witch hunt. It's now totally out of control and we start to look like CCP

Do you think the CCP is

a) happy about this or

b) unhappy about this

I'll give you three guesses.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

#340

Post by cheph »

throwaway3699 wrote: post #310
coldtea wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So I should probably lower the quality of my life to make a statement that will have no impact on them at all? God forbid we "lower the quality of our lives" for such lowly things as principles! > Sure you can, by petitioning your government to draft laws and so on. Else what, you'll vote for another party? Both parties (in the US) take money from Big Tech, and they vote the same shit anyway. That will "show them"…

America is hopeless here, much better to try and fight them elsewhere.

EU gave us GDPR popups, so, not sure there is hope there.
Post reply on HN