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Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…

> Google will explain what’s going on shortly It's definitely not Google style. But I hope Matrix will get more promotion in result.

Newsflash: there is a chat system so secure, Google doesn't want you to know it exists.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will bite: Firefox, the one that cares about privacy and open standards, even if it has a lot of income coming from a search bar deal with Google.

...and doesn't care about deplatforming. "We need more than deplatforming" https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d...

That post sounds quite skeptical of the way the deplatforming was handled, and the power of sites to arbitrarily deplatform. Can you be more specific about your actual objection?

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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It seems all those deplatforming started really recently with trump/parler and turned into a witch hunt. It's now totally out of control and we start to look like CCP

I wish Google and Apple are going to be hit with fines and regulation in the EU because of this once the comissioners have better things to occupy themselves with other than the pandemic.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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While we have found a way to establish and execute rules in the real world (legislature and jurisdiction) we have completely forgotten that we need something like that in the digital world as well.

And now a few VPs of Google and Apple dictate who's allowed to bring in their apps into their holy app store.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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It seems all those deplatforming started really recently with trump/parler and turned into a witch hunt. It's now totally out of control and we start to look like CCP

Element and Parler are nothing alike.

Element is a chat client. It's an empty piece of software for use with your own choice of server. Element is to a chat server, as Thunderbird is to an email server. It's basically a glorified IRC client. It contains no content of its own.

Parler was basically a curated, centrally run, Facebook-message-board-replacement for neonazis, antisemites, qanon conspiracy theorists, and the lunatic fringe of the alt-right.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So let me ask you a question, how were they negatively impacting your mental wellbeing? I ask this genuinely, because I have a tendency to feel these tools only negatively impact people who use them in stress-creating ways. That, however, feels like victim blaming. There's a difference between a using a circular saw dangerously and a circular saw that is MADE with electrical failures that shock you. Let me give the e…

This is the classic advertising doesn't work on me mentality. Whether you realise it or not, the algorithms behind these services are having a subtle impact on you and show you things for various shady reasons. For me, that was enough just to ditch those services. It's good to see that you're limiting your exposure to them though.

> This is the classic advertising doesn't work on me mentality.

Only if you're massively moving the goalposts.

The claim wasn't anything about "subtle impact" or "shady reasons". It was about whether those services are causing major stress and problems.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…

You, like Parler, have been targeted by the powers that be. You may have nothing else in common other than that but, you're in the same boat it seems.

Element and Parler are nothing alike.

Element is a chat client. It's an empty piece of software for use with your own choice of server. Element is to a chat server, as Thunderbird is to an email server. It's basically a glorified IRC client. It contains no content of its own.

Parler was basically a curated, centrally run, Facebook-message-board-replacement for neonazis, antisemites, qanon conspiracy theorists, and the lunatic fringe of the alt-right.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Opt out. No Google. No Facebook. No Twitter. No Amazon. You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. You can't change how they operate. But you can change how you operate.

Far better to opt in, recover control of the legislature from the large corporations and Reclaim the State.

There's nowhere to run away to.

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