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Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Opt out. No Google. No Facebook. No Twitter. No Amazon. You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. You can't change how they operate. But you can change how you operate.

I’m there. We’re early, everyone else will eventually abandon ship.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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How could this be - I was told our corporate overlords are able to do whatever they'd regarding kicking people off their platforms? Whatever shall we do? The funny thing about the whole "do bad things and get kicked off" strategy is that every platform has abusers. Since Big Tech can arbitrarily decide the thresholds and circumstances that lead to being kicked off, this effectively means they can kick anyone off for…

FYI your comment was dead, and I vouched for it. You might be shadowbanned? Not sure, but regardless you might look into it.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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> You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. So I should probably lower the quality of my life to make a statement that will have no impact on them at all? >You can't change how they operate. Sure you can, by petitioning your government to draft laws and so on.

I quit Reddit, Amazon, Twitter, Google, Instagram and Facebook. My life has never been better. Minor inconvenience does not outweigh major improvements in my mental wellness. (Edit: I mention mental wellness because those products, and the ads they carry, are designed to be addictive.)

Those are just tools that give you a lot of leverage if used correctly.

Instagram is a great tools for business, and now it's practically impossible to run one without using it. Twitter and reddit can provide you a ton of useful info that you will have a hard time finding anywhere else (or it will take way longer). I've built a business on Play Store.

It's all about how you use them.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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I quit Reddit, Amazon, Twitter, Google, Instagram and Facebook. My life has never been better. Minor inconvenience does not outweigh major improvements in my mental wellness. (Edit: I mention mental wellness because those products, and the ads they carry, are designed to be addictive.)

Are you saying that not using Google search has improved your quality of life?

Google search has gone significantly down in quality over the last year or so. Even just searching for simple things only seems to yield articles from the same 20 or so major websites, and it’s worse if you’re looking for niche items. DuckDuckGo on the other hand is starting to give relatively better and more diverse results these days.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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It's becoming more and more clear that there's a problem with these corporately-controlled "free markets" that are neither free nor are they markets. It's time for Congress to do more than just write strongly-worded letters to large tech conglomerates hoping that these kinds of anti-consumer practices stop. It's funny (or sad) that the meme du jour is "build your own app store, bro." We need: (1) transparency and (2)…

Hear, hear!

For the people who see no issues with any of this, shall we shut off their water and electricity too while we're at it?

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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What people and authorities? I stopped using these services and told people to contact me via sms or signal. No problems so far. The people who won't make that extra step aren't worth my time because clearly I'm not worth their time.

> What people and authorities? - Make bank account. - Bank forces you to use their app for obtaining TANs. - App refuses to run because "your phone is rooted", i.e. because you removed Google's crap. - No bank account for you, sorry bro. I have personally been through this shit. Sure, some banks offer using a physical TAN generator - but not all!

Fair point.

That is a situation where I'd move bank, use an iPhone or just allow GServices on my device.

There is certainly a point where you just need to be pragmatic above all else. Otherwise, you can still reduce your interactions with their other services as much as possible.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Opt out. No Google. No Facebook. No Twitter. No Amazon. You don't need them, you might even enjoy life more without them. You can't change how they operate. But you can change how you operate.

Personally, I heavily rely on Google and Amazon. All my emails, purchases, photos, and browsing goes through them. Opting out would mean uprooting gigabytes of data to other services, which takes time to research, backup, and transfer. And even then you can't fully get rid of them, because switching to Apple from Android costs money, and I am not willing to root Android. This is merely my personal situation, but sayi…

"massive dependence"

Switching from gmail to another provider isn't like living without electricity, it takes a couple of days updating some external accounts to reflect your new email; I did it.

Buying shit from somewhere that isn't Amazon isn't exactly trekking through the jungle for 3 weeks. All you have to do is type in another domain. There is no shortage of non-Amazon sellers with similar prices.

Switching from Chrome to Firefox takes 5 minutes, you can import your bookmarks and whatnot. Maybe you'll have to type in a password again. No climbing K2 level difficulty there either.

Android and iOS aren't that different, you can click a browser, camera, or email in either in the same amount of time with the same UI.

Sure it's effort, but it's not a hell of a lot of effort.

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