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Wild lynx could be reintroduced into Scottish Highlands

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Re: Wild lynx could be reintroduced into Scottish Highlands

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Be that as it may, the ancient world definitely went through a lot of trees, when they were the principle source of energy. To put that in some perspective, a Roman legion (roughly 5,000 men) in the Late Republic might have carried into battle around 44,000kg (c. 48.5 tons) of iron – not counting pots, fittings, picks, shovels and other tools we know they used. That iron equipment in turn might represent the mining o…

Right! But as I understand it, most of this wood was from managed forest, which allowed for much more efficient harvesting and also allowed for controlling various qualities of the wood. Lindybeige has a good video on the topic. It doesn't quite go back to Roman times though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVPUFMwm73Y

From same blog, who sourced, the impression I got was that medieval-period industrial activity featured more forest management, as it was private property / a resource.

In Roman times... We know, for instance, that Elba was almost totally deforested during the Roman period to fuel the bloomeries smelting the ore and Pliny notes in his Natural History that smelting (not always of iron) had substantially reduced forest-stocks in parts of Gaul and Campagnia. Roman iron production in the eastern High Weald of England may have deforested something like 500km2 over the course of three centuries and there is reason to believe that Roman-period iron production in this area stopped because of scarcity of fuel, rather than ore. Iron-working was hardly the only factor in the steady deforestation of Europe, but it was a major factor.

So apparently Roman-era metal production was sufficient to deforest isolated large islands, but probably not for mainland areas better able to reforest themselves.

Re: Wild lynx could be reintroduced into Scottish Highlands

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Lynx are native to Scotland, I don't believe that rabbits are, they are usually considered to have been introduced by the Normans in the 12th century. According to the wikipedia article the lynx appears to have a pretty varied diet

Why wouldn't rabbits be native? It's not so long ago that Great Britain was connected to mainland Europe, so I'd think that most of the same animals would be present both sides of the North Sea.

European Rabbits are native to the iberian peninsula and southern France, they were introduced to the British Isles either by the Romans or the Normans. There's more information about this on the Wikipedia article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_rabbit

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Deer seem to be a problem everywhere. In the US midwest they're all over the place.

Crossbows are easy to use and don't alarm neighbors. Venison is delicious and nutritious. Butchering a deer is a fun and educational project for the whole family, and requires very little equipment: knives and a big table, plus a tree limb and some rope for the initial skinning. This is yet another problem that people could solve for themselves, if enough of them cared to do so.

> Butchering a deer is a fun and educational project for the whole family

Yep, children will always remember with joy their first exposure to the marvels of Cephenemyia. Like catching apples in a barrel but a much more vibrating activity.

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I suppose that without much in the way of forests, bow hunting deer also isn't much of a thing in the highlands.

Bow hunting is illegal in the UK. Permitted firearms and ammunition are also regulated on animal cruelty grounds. http://www.thedeerinitiative.co.uk/uploads/guides/90.pdf

Most US states also regulate which cartridges can be used on deer, also for animal cruelty reasons. Certainly Minnesota does.

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It's worth noting, with respect to the advice from Norwegian farmers, that Norwegian farmers have an incentive to push for high estimates of predation over other causes of loss, as they get compensation for loss due to predators. That's not to say they don't lose animals to predators, but the estimates of the actual numbers have been fought over in Norway for decades.

It's really not a big problem, Switzerland is much smaller and we have 140-180 lynx, around 80 Wolves and some Brown bears. Yes they are some losses, but with herd dogs not allot.

there are A lot

Re: Wild lynx could be reintroduced into Scottish Highlands

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Lynx are extremely photogenic, but I can't help wondering - why? They're not endangered, they are aggressive predators, and Scotland's ecology isn't obviously in need of them. The fact that they were common half a millennium ago when the ecosystem was very different doesn't seem particularly relevant. So if this is just for tourism and/or as a vanity project and there are no solid ecological or scientific reasons, I'…

> and Scotland's ecology isn't obviously in need of them. If you've visited Scotland's countryside, you might have noticed the sweeping vistas of grassy green fields, yellow bushy marshes, and purple heather -- and a conspicuous absence of any trees. It's a very unnatural landscape, historically speaking. Scotland (along with the rest of the UK) cut down most of their old growth forests in the industrial revolution,…

Does stalking mean hunting?

Re: Wild lynx could be reintroduced into Scottish Highlands

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It's worth noting, with respect to the advice from Norwegian farmers, that Norwegian farmers have an incentive to push for high estimates of predation over other causes of loss, as they get compensation for loss due to predators. That's not to say they don't lose animals to predators, but the estimates of the actual numbers have been fought over in Norway for decades.

It's really not a big problem, Switzerland is much smaller and we have 140-180 lynx, around 80 Wolves and some Brown bears. Yes they are some losses, but with herd dogs not allot.

Part of the issue in Norway is that the sheep are not actively herded most of the summer. They get checked on now and again, but not continuously. The farmers basically want to avoid the cost by pushing up the proportion of losses that are due to predators that they get compensation for.
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