Facebook shuts down the Socialist Workers Party in Britain

Post by lenkite » Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

stjohnswarts wrote: post #276

mancerayder wrote: post #215

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> It's a positive thing for these ejections to be across the political spectrum, because it makes the demand for distributed moderation come from across the political spectrum. It's a positive thing for these ejections to be across the political spectrum, because it de-politicizes censorship, and folks on one side of the spectrum cheering for the other side begin to realize that censorship is always a scope creep iss…

I'm a little worried in a few years it will only be safe to put up recipes and tell people happy birthday on social media, everything else will be too controversial

Post by throwaway45349 » Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 5:05 AM UTC

loceng wrote: post #290

PoignardAzur wrote: post #228

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That's optimistic. What I'm seeing is a lot of "we should regulate things so that facebook isn't allowed to censor things I like but is obligated to censor things I don't like". If people reacted to censorship in a principled way, we wouldn't be where we are today.

And then you posting your counter narrative - even if it's truth and reason - will result in you being ban/blocked from their threads. We're going to start to have big in-person forums where a person's truth and reason can't be quickly silenced so the potential mob will be smaller than otherwise.

Post by lenkite » Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 5:14 AM UTC

filoleg wrote: post #237

andrepd wrote: post #199

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Excellent, let's reduce everything to "it's a private company, end of story". Such a simple approach, no need to think any further. I assume I can also beat my children as long as I do it inside my private house?

Not trying to take a stand in the argument of whether the companies should be allowed to use the "private platform" excuse to get rid of any content they don't like, but I disagree with your analogy specifically. >I assume I can also beat my children as long as I do it inside my private house? Beating children is illegal for anyone by law already. Removing something spray painted on your walls or deciding what books…

Post by lenkite » Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 5:17 AM UTC

kypro wrote: post #287

How is this not foreign political interference? The UK media has been preaching to us about dangers of Russian election interference for years at this point, but simultaneously they seem completely unconcerned that a handful of wealthy Americans how the power to censor popular media outlets, entire political movements and political activists at a whim. The SWP is massive. I don't know for sure, but I suspect they had…

Post by cambalache » Sat, Jan 23, 2021, 5:23 AM UTC

nitrogen wrote: post #294

cambalache wrote: post #231

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Or.... The media companies just like to have the middle-of-the-road, dont-rock-the-boat-too-much parties who will kowtow to them and give the masses the ILUSION of political choice.

Middle doesn't have to mean 100% pro-establishment or pro-status-quo. And the illusion of choice applies to the falsely compressed, single-issue, single-axis left/right extremes, too.