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Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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New website looks cool, however I shall rant once again - I spent quite a bit of time searching for some screenshots of the application as well as an "about" section describing what it is, only to find some of it on the old website.

It's cool to do a refresh but please bring the screenshots back and write a bit more about it on the about page - it's empty right now!

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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I used to use it, the later telepathy/empathy stuff on Gnome as well. At some point I started using Facebook, and it obviated the need for a chat client running all the time. Work places seem to be enamored with Slack these days.

Bummer, can't even remember my old logins. Not ICQ nor MSN, Jabber on Facebook doesn't work any longer, might be able to figure out the Yahoo, hmm.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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I re-read that piece just a week ago. It's magnificent and now even more true than eight years ago. Spoke to friend this week, she told me she doesn't have a computer. That's increasingly common. People get by with their phones.

But smartphone is a computer, personal computer with telephony hardware. And Android is Linux with different userspace, mainline Linux can boot quite a lot of smartphones. Terminology is so wrong.

There is a general purpose computer under there but most people don't interact with it like that. The fact that it can does not mean that it will.

A lot of this has to do with the ecosystem and how a device is presented and what the UX is like. Manufacturers increasingly want to lock things down and hide them away.

I agree that this trend should be fought.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Ah! the glorious days of integrated chat clients. I had friends of MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, GTalk and for a very limited time ICQ (Actually it was the same guys on all networks :) ). There weren't any network effort, people were willing to try out different IMs for their uniqueness. Lots of companies were trying to produce integrated chat clients - Pidgin, Meebo, Trillian, Digsby and a whole lot of guys on Mob…

I used Digsby for so long, once they stopped developing was about the time I moved off those chat clients to Skype.

Meebo too, back in high school we'd play cat and mouse with Meebo Repeater, and a few other fun sites (an image board for our school, a really rough freeware proxy) with the IT guys. All run out of old pcs we had in our closests. Highlight was when they redirected the free url we were using to Barney.com

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Does nobody remember Pidgin? It was one of the first things a lot of people installed on their machines 15 years ago along with Firefox. We used it as an alternative client to AOL Instant Messenger and Yahoo Messenger. It used to be called GAIM.

Does not everyone still use it? I and most of my friends do. They are also responsible for my favorite bug report ever: https://bugs.gentoo.org/35890

I come to HN for the incredibly out-of-touch takes like this.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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I would suggest they never knew how to use computers. Computers are general purpose devices, which is lost on the general population who only ever need to check emails and post on social media. Smart phones fit this perfectly. Let's leave the general computing devices for people who actually need that power, just like the early days.

Awfully condescending opinion. How about making _general_ computing devices more accessible via UI/UX to the _general_ public? That doesn't seem like such a crazy idea.

We did, it resulted in smartphones and tablets, so what the OP is saying applies still. I would argue that's "general" computing now. They finished what the webTV started, providing a basic platform for people who had only very basic needs.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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post #117

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And GAIM was based on Gamera, the official AOL Linux client.

I don't think so - I believe the original GAIM client used the open TOC protocol, e.g. from TiK which was the official Tk-based AIM client, some years before Gamera.

You are correct. At the time, AOL had released TiK and documented the TOC protocol but TiK was a bit slow and clunky, so Mark Spencer, the original author of GAIM, implemented faster client in C using GTK for the UI. OSCAR support came later because OSCAR supported some additional presence features (I think?? It's been a while...) and because ICQ also used OSCAR.

Pidgin and libpurple also have roots in another project called Everybuddy which was one of the first multi-protocol integrated free software chat clients. As I recall, Torrey Searle started Everybuddy because he was having a hard time getting traction on adding multiple protocols to GAIM at the time for a variety of reasons my hazy memory doesn't really remember.

For a couple of years after GAIM started to get plugin and multiple protocol support, much code was shared between GAIM and Everybuddy, and then eventually effort centered around just one of the code bases which eventually became Pidgin and libpurple.

Source: I was involved in GAIM early on and Torrey is a friend from those days.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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post #113

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Google Talk* There was no product named Google Chat until recently.

Doesn't matter what the official name was, what everyone called it was GChat or Google Chat.

The official name matters when trying to distinguish between Google Talk and Google Chat.
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