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Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

#191

I used to use Pidgin all the time. But, as the years went by, it supported fewer and fewer of the IM services and protocols I used so I finally bid it adieu.

Actually more and more IM services shut down public APIs as the web transitioned into extracting value from user lock-in and analytics.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Remember it? I use it every day. I assumed pretty much everybody else does too. shrug That said, it is annoying how so many chat services have gone out of their way to break the ability of 3rd party clients like Pidgin to work. :-(

You assumed pretty much everyone used a desktop specific chat app that is 20 years old?

You're taking this WAY too literally.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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My daughter (who teaches math at HS) asked me to create educational videos for her kids who don't know how to work a computer. They only know phones.

They use one at home to browse the internet and work? I can certainly understand that one would do so on the go, but it seems extremely cumbersome to do a school assignment on a phone keyboard.

Many use i pads with keyboard cases or chrome books instead. These allow typing with a physical keyboard but a set of capabilities and an interface akin to that of a cellular phone.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Does not everyone still use it? I and most of my friends do. They are also responsible for my favorite bug report ever: https://bugs.gentoo.org/35890

At a certain point some services didn't work anymore, or not fully feature full. So yeah, ditched it

I wouldn't be surprised that is how they lost the majority of their user base. Everyone I know was on it, myself included, but once support was hampered around the time the AIM protocol died, most people around me left for Telegram and Signal.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Does nobody remember Pidgin? It was one of the first things a lot of people installed on their machines 15 years ago along with Firefox. We used it as an alternative client to AOL Instant Messenger and Yahoo Messenger. It used to be called GAIM.

Does not everyone still use it? I and most of my friends do. They are also responsible for my favorite bug report ever: https://bugs.gentoo.org/35890

Everyone I know stopped using AIM over a decade ago and by even 5 years ago Google Chat and everything else emptied out in favor of iMessage, Whatsapp, Signal etc...

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

#196
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iOS applications aren't allowed to stay awake constantly talking to a bunch of different network services. For iOS IM to work, a centralized server (and corresponding developer ID) has to send a notification to you, sent first to Apple to be proxied via Apple's push notification service (APNS) to which each iOS device maintains a persistent connection. This means that some third party service has to know when you get…

>cryptographically shattered iMessage Could you expand on this? I did a quick search but I don't see anything relevant that's more recent than 2016.

iCloud backups contain iMessage encryption keys so the messages can be decrypted and read by Apple.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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I still use Messenger via Pidgin. My biggest gripe is lack of support for latest Unicode emoji.

How does it work now? usually back in the day I had to download a plugin enter email/username or password. and that's it. Does it require some bridge hack or something like that?

It looks like they reverse-engineered the Android client.

https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Mate, the general population increasingly don’t even use desktops or laptops for personal usage anymore let alone a desktop OS specific IM client from the early 2000s.

I would suggest they never knew how to use computers. Computers are general purpose devices, which is lost on the general population who only ever need to check emails and post on social media. Smart phones fit this perfectly. Let's leave the general computing devices for people who actually need that power, just like the early days.

Awfully condescending opinion.

How about making _general_ computing devices more accessible via UI/UX to the _general_ public? That doesn't seem like such a crazy idea.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

#200
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While I really like Pidgin, I really wish their developer reference for plugins were a bit easier to work with/understand. The only thing I find is here: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/CHowTo (Their new website https://pidgin.im/development/ has nothing on making plugins) But it does not explain things like How to create new chats/IMs, how to create new buddies, what the Buddy List is (Which I found out, the buddy…

I tried to contribute code to the pidgin project a long time ago. I was attempting to flesh out the plugin architecture and functionality (yes, including documentation! i was a big nerd back then. still am, tbh)

The guy who ran the project back then was an arrogant sanctimonious asshole. Everything was a goddamn power play with him.

I left that project quickly for greener OSS pastures.

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