New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

Post by kortilla » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 12:02 AM UTC

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Financial companies, pharmaceutical companies, automotive companies, aircraft (component or manufacturing) companies. They all fail to understand the criticality of software and IT to their long term objectives, and greatly undervalue people in those fields. A recurring issue I've found is, "Jack the EE picked up programming in a week, why are you worth as much or more than him when you aren't even a 'real' engineer?…

I disagree - non-software companies feel entitled to price employees based in relation to their peers rather than in relation to the value they add to the business (and possibly misuse their tech labour because they never hired an architect that could actually steer it to be as valuable as it could be) but Jack the EE might be a perfectly servicable developer. There's a lot of theory we learn in school that Jack woul…

Post by syndacks » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 12:12 AM UTC

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Reading all comments grilling MBAs in HN is one of my guilty pleasures. I think I need to collect them all and put them in one place.

Unashamed MBA checking in here! MBAs are the classic punching bags for HN. It seems we’re willing to bend the “civility” rules a bit here in order to have a nice hearty MBA-bash. I’ve seen all sorts of awful generalizations posted here about MBAs that would get you flagkilled if made about other professions or degrees. Some of us actually have tech/coding backgrounds and aren’t the stereotypical pointy-headed-bosses,…

Post by MajorBee » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 12:17 AM UTC

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Or maybe he employed more run-of-the-mill unsavoury techniques like low-level bribery (gifts, expensive wine-and-dine), plenty of shmoozing and the like. These techniques are not exactly useless in getting new business; however, most modern workplace rulebooks will consider them illegal/unethical.

You are joking right? It in the rulebook of most sales folks... everywhere. Companies have special budgets for this. I don't mean some trading-only companies like Cargill who have extra prostitues budgets (at least 5 years ago that was true, and with expensive alcohol parties was the only way to do any business in places like Russia or most 3rd world countries). I mean any kind of bigger corporation. Banks have it. A…

Post by rhizome » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 12:24 AM UTC

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I genuinely feel bad for talented people that get suckered into deals like this. Obviously some do if recruiters try and do this.

I think talented people will not take it unless they're between a rock and a hard place. Sadly what this does is it attracts only the most junior or unqualified hires who (are great if you got time/budget but if not) will need to be trained by the few seniors left holding the place together. I'm not surprised Intel does this and the telecommunications side I have seen from them in Europe was rotten to the core. I hav…

Post by hnuser123456 » Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 12:27 AM UTC

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You forgot their main market, AMD - desktop x86/windows But the first point on your list is where their real loss is, it's historically the source of their strenght and they've never been losing at this one.

Is that their main market? It’s surely what they’re known for to the general public but I’d have guessed they care more about the Xeon line. But I’d be interested to hear that I’m wrong.