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Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by emteycz »

pjmlp wrote: post #278
emteycz wrote: post #276

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I had three Windows Mobile devices and 5 J2ME devices and not a single one had app store. Why - there wasn't any mobile internet connectivity back then, the Java devices didn't even have wifi. Apps were loaded over USB, downloaded as JAR files. Apps were normally bought on eshops od vendors.

> Apps were normally bought on eshops od vendors. So there were app stores.

Sorry but that experience is absolutely incomparable. It was more like buying software on CD except you got a file. That's not what App Store is.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by chris37879 »

xellisx wrote: post #270
alexfromapex wrote: post #249

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I don’t think there’s an obsession with Apple so much as there is an obsession with the minimalism and an alignment of the design goals into an ecosystem that Apple has demonstrated.

I find the minimalism to become frustrating, when it involves burying things that were so easily accessed before. In windows you used to be able to right click the desktop to get to display settings.

What version of windows are you on? I just opened my pc to check and sure enough, display settings is still in my desktop menu. But I do get what you mean, that's one of the reasons my windows usage at this point is basically only for video games. And even that won't be true when I build a new rig with AMD CPU & GPU.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by txbuck »

I'm both hopeful and dubious about this. Can't see this getting very far if it isn't open source, but it seems like something similar could scratch an itch I've had for a while (detailed below).

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I love using my iPad to consume content, but damn do I sometimes wish I could just use a real desktop on it. With some caveats, of course:

- Without needing an internet connection/AP - At least some kind touch support* (clicking, scrolling, gestures, etc.) - Consistent, dependable graphical fidelity/performance - Easily portable - Quick to instantiate - Clean-yet-functional UI*

I've tried some wireless AP/bridge setups on a Pi4 and VNCing into it via my iPad, but they've been not-so-satisfactory for a few of the reasons listed above. Haven't given up on it -still researching/fiddling around - but definitely the biggest hurdle is going to be the UI. Gotta find that balance between functionality, simplicity, and aesthetic - preferably out of the box. Not something Linux is particularly known for.

*i.e. simplified desktop/application UI so that I can do most everything using the touchscreen (in addition to the keyboard/mouse), but can still access the advanced functions, even if those specifically are only optimized for mouse/keyboard. Ideally I'd be able to show/hide functions arbitrarily in the simple mode based on if I do/don't use them. Tiled WM or similar for single-app or split-pane view mode.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by pjmlp »

emteycz wrote: post #281
pjmlp wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apps were normally bought on eshops od vendors. So there were app stores.

Sorry but that experience is absolutely incomparable. It was more like buying software on CD except you got a file. That's not what App Store is.

Opinions don't change historical facts.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by captainmuon »

himujjal wrote: post #221
oaiey wrote: post #137

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Well that is a good idea. But it has a problem: dev and ux capacity. When you try to make 20 different than you split your force into 20 different projects. Apple and Microsoft do not have this problem and will therefore always lead the pack.

Exactly my point. The Linux is all about choice argument means workforce distribution. Sure, for different hardware (RPi, Tablets, PC, Mobile etc) different distros/DEs make sense. But for a single similar hardware, (PC for example) I never understood why distros like Manjaro and KDE neon are separate. Wish those teams were together and built a kick-ass serious competitor.

If I use Windows, I get a certain familiar desktop. I can change the colors and the wallpaper, but that is about it.

But in the Linux world, if I like a minimalistic appearance and the Gnome shell model, I use Gnome. If I want a powerful desktop that I can configure a lot, I choose KDE/Plasma. If I want something lightweight, there are plenty of choices.

And why are there different distros like Manjaro, KDE Neon, Ubuntu, Fedora? This is somewhat orthognal, but they all have important differences.

I don't think one "Desktop Linux" could give me the breadth of choices that multiple desktop environments can. If they were to merge and make one big enviroment, that would have to be really good because it is competing with Windows and macOS.

I used to use Gnome, but since Linux is moving in the direction you describe and homogenizing under the hood (see systemd for example), I found that current desktop Linux is no longer the radical different OS - it is just an inferior alternative Windows (for me personally, at this point in time!).

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by aruggirello »

orblivion wrote: post #207
bArray wrote: post #6

> Available from Jan 31, 2021 So, is this going to be a paid for product? I am looking at what looks like is their GitHub page, and it's basically empty? https://github.com/JingOS-team

According to their FAQ they plan to update their Github repo every half year: https://forum.jingos.com/t/faq-about-jingos/243 Seems weird to me.

Makes sense, since they're downstream from Ubuntu, and this is Ubuntu's release cadence.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by xellisx »

chris37879 wrote: post #282
xellisx wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find the minimalism to become frustrating, when it involves burying things that were so easily accessed before. In windows you used to be able to right click the desktop to get to display settings.

What version of windows are you on? I just opened my pc to check and sure enough, display settings is still in my desktop menu. But I do get what you mean, that's one of the reasons my windows usage at this point is basically only for video games. And even that won't be true when I build a new rig with AMD CPU & GPU.

You're correct. I thought they removed it. I know that Kubuntu doesn't have that, but Ubuntu does.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by emteycz »

pjmlp wrote: post #284
emteycz wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry but that experience is absolutely incomparable. It was more like buying software on CD except you got a file. That's not what App Store is.

Opinions don't change historical facts.

That's not opinion, this has nothing to do with App Store, you can tell by the first look. App Store never was about the UI for downloading apps itself, that's just the front face of the App Store service that moderates and verifies content, sets standards and quality requirements. Not even Android Market/Google Play is close to App Store, though closer than random web shops shipping JARs.
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