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Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by himujjal » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 2:56 PM UTC

oaiey wrote: post #137

captainmuon wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there is no single "Linux Desktop". If these people would contribute to e.g. Gnome instead, they might help improve Gnome but they couldn't realize this idea. Personally I think there is little benefit to having one single Linux desktop that is equivalent to Windows or macOS, just with a different theme and a different kernel. Desktop Linux is about choice (TM).

Well that is a good idea. But it has a problem: dev and ux capacity. When you try to make 20 different than you split your force into 20 different projects. Apple and Microsoft do not have this problem and will therefore always lead the pack.

Exactly my point. The Linux is all about choice argument means workforce distribution.

Sure, for different hardware (RPi, Tablets, PC, Mobile etc) different distros/DEs make sense. But for a single similar hardware, (PC for example) I never understood why distros like Manjaro and KDE neon are separate. Wish those teams were together and built a kick-ass serious competitor.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by himujjal » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 2:58 PM UTC

29athrowaway wrote: post #186

LibreOffice is not my go-to choice anymore for office suites on Linux. FreeOffice from SoftMaker is my choice now.

Same here. But I use onlyoffice. And its been serving me good till now. Plus I like the tabs thing. I installed it on my friend's laptop which is super old, it seems to work better than MS Office 2016 too

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by cpuguy83 » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 3:07 PM UTC

seniorivn wrote: post #209

ben_w wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have dominion of the word “Apple” in the context of consumer electronics, and “Pad” is easy to misread in context as “iPad”, leaving open the reasonable possibility of customer confusion. That’s basically what trademarks are both for and there to prevent.

This Pad thing only relevant because they copycat all up/ux It would be totally justified to call new/innovative tablet/OS a Pad

It would be Apple's obligation as a trademark holder to try and stop it, however.

The word may be too generic, but the intent seems specifically to confuse.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by toyg » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 3:12 PM UTC

iFreilicht wrote: post #83

tomc1985 wrote: post #27

I wonder if this is going to be the OS of choice for flea-market iPad counterfeits/knockoffs... the Files screen even says "On my Pad" in the shown screenshot. Everything looks close enough to be able to possibly fool an untrained eye.

And the makers of JingOS, Jingling, are a China-based company working on the JingPad, an ARM tablet designed to run Linux OOTB. I'm sure we'll see a lot of variants of that quite soon after their release in July, and many people having fun hacking them.

Aah, that explains the name! I was banging my head trying to understand what was “jingoistic” about this OS...

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by exabrial » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 3:13 PM UTC

I always thought, if a vendor ever wants to encroach into Apple's territory, literally all they have to do is the same formula: Commercially supported Unix operating system with a polished UI + hardware. If you want to approach the enterprise market, you need an excel and word clone. For the consumer market, a polished and solid (crash free) browser with GPU acceleration is probably the #1 feature.

Obviously not that simple in practice but what certainly _doesnt_ work is sexy hardware running the turd that is windows.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 3:14 PM UTC

hnarn wrote: post #116

adam-a wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree it's probably not intentional the word is pretty common in British English.

Obviously "pretty common" is, just like "obscure", completely subjective. I consider it obscure, but all I can say from looking it up is that at least according to Google Ngram, it's about 1/10 as common as "patriotism", which is saying something as that's been a declining word for a century. It's less common than "chauvinism", "sectarianism" and "xenophobia". In fact, tripling the popularity of "jingoism" still woul…

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Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by app4soft » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 3:14 PM UTC

pratio wrote: post #197

A lot has already been said about them copying or borrowing or just getting their inspiration from Apple, so I'll skip that. Unless they fully opensource the code it is unlikely to get any traction. And if it is really based on Linux we're likely going to see UI and UX issues, An OS is more than just a some fancy icons and modded apps. The transitions that they show in the demo are not easy to achieve as in stability…

The worst thing is there that title should be: "Linux Distro Inspired by the iOS".

iPad is a device, not OS.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by asidiali » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 3:25 PM UTC

app4soft wrote: post #227

pratio wrote: post #197

A lot has already been said about them copying or borrowing or just getting their inspiration from Apple, so I'll skip that. Unless they fully opensource the code it is unlikely to get any traction. And if it is really based on Linux we're likely going to see UI and UX issues, An OS is more than just a some fancy icons and modded apps. The transitions that they show in the demo are not easy to achieve as in stability…

The worst thing is there that title should be: "Linux Distro Inspired by the iOS" . iPad is a device, not OS.

iPad-flavored iOS is different than iPhone-flavored iOS.

Even Apple calls it iPadOS: https://www.apple.com/ipados/ipados-14/

Their title seems accurate.

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by cueo » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 3:46 PM UTC

app4soft wrote: post #227

pratio wrote: post #197

A lot has already been said about them copying or borrowing or just getting their inspiration from Apple, so I'll skip that. Unless they fully opensource the code it is unlikely to get any traction. And if it is really based on Linux we're likely going to see UI and UX issues, An OS is more than just a some fancy icons and modded apps. The transitions that they show in the demo are not easy to achieve as in stability…

The worst thing is there that title should be: "Linux Distro Inspired by the iOS" . iPad is a device, not OS.

Thanks for your clarification. I wasn't able to make head or tail of the title without reading your comment.

/s

Re: JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

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Post by Razengan » Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 4:17 PM UTC

zhobbs wrote: post #208

tomc1985 wrote: post #27

I wonder if this is going to be the OS of choice for flea-market iPad counterfeits/knockoffs... the Files screen even says "On my Pad" in the shown screenshot. Everything looks close enough to be able to possibly fool an untrained eye.

I would think an Android skin would still be preferable. Much bigger ecosystem of touch optimized apps.

> Much bigger ecosystem of touch optimized apps.

What?? Hell NO!

Most Android "tablet" apps are upscaled phone apps, if even that. The last time I checked, apps specifically developed for Android tablets were far fewer (and worse) than apps specifically made for iPads.