From the gofundme: “ Lawyer's fees, private investigators, an armed security guard for my home since the police published my home address and contact information online, moving expenses so my family can get out of the Governor's reach, and any costs associated with this fight that I may not be anticipating. My family and I will need to move and get set up in a new place.” Holy hell it’s like she pulled a Snowden or s…
Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
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Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#202>After she was fired, Jones started her own online COVID-19 dashboard. But she said Saturday that she may no longer be allowed access to computers, the internet or other electronic devices as a condition of her release from jail pending trial. In the modern day, with so much that is online or involving computers, this should be considered unjust punishment, the likes of which should be reserved only for child moleste…
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Think of the financial institution that chooses not to do business with him as a bakery, and sargon is a gay wedding cake. Banned from society? I was unaware that you're "banned from society" because private business Patreon doesn't want a relationship with you.
The modern examples of a gay couple being refused service is a poor example. They can’t just go to the other financial institutions, because all of them have black-listed them. An Internet business cannot feasibly operate on cash alone. Just like any farmer in the 1800s can just go lay his own railroad tracks across the continent, every website that hosts wrongthink is equally capable of creating their own banks, pay…
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about blacklisting people from monetary/financial services such as banks and credit card co's based on their political views? That goes even further. https://spectator.us/topic/financial-blacklisting-sargon-akk... https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/02/27/financial-blacklis...
People were banned from financial services for growing weed and being sex workers, largely at the request of the right. And now the right is complaining this is coming back to them.
Operation Choke-Point was actually an Obama era policy.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>It happens in Ireland hmm >>They are generally unarmed raids So then does not happen all the time in Ireland You should really look into how the US conducts "raids" even when there is no "gangland" case involved. They have one procedure for all raids, and it very militaristic, they are always armed, and it is ALWAYS excessive and violent. What you are calling a "raid" in Ireland would not be what we in the US calle…
Different threat models, but a raid is a raid. Just like an arrest is an arrest, even though in the US it will necessarily involve firearms and in Ireland, it almost never will.
Nonsense. There's a world of difference between a couple of cops knocking on your door and a full squad of fully armed, fully armoured militarised faux-soldiers busting down your door and threatening to shoot you, your family and your pets - and often following through on those threats.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the degrees you've cited necessarily make one a data scientist. I think doing data scientist work makes you a data scientist. So it may well be best to consider her a data scientist based on her current work or even if it is more of a hobby, even if your degree argument isn't the one I'd use. Nevertheless, Ms. Jones was paid as a web developer by the state, not as a data scientist, and if she was publis…
>I think doing data scientist work makes you a data scientist Then we just hope you Surgeon is not like that, and has at least a degree in Medicine.
1) People on HN say the person isn't educated, so you link her degrees in varying fields (not statistics or epidemiology).
2) People on HN say that those fields are irrelevant to her work, so you explain their relevance to the field of statistics.
3) People say on HN that credentials don't matter as long as you're doing the work of a data scientist, at which point you declare the importance of a relevant degree to the field.
So, which is it that draws importance? The college-level education of any kind, or the credentials that establish the doctor?
I find your opinions to be largely at-odds with one another.
Personally : I don't care at all about credentials if the quality is there. With regards to this specific case, i'll wait until the facts are in -- but it rubs me the wrong way that authorities don't want to speak of her charges even though she's available and willing to cooperate from what I read in the article.
P.S. I share your pain with those that edit comments in a dishonest way post-reply. It's a real problem on HN.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#207There’s a lot of talk in this thread of whether Jones is a data scientist or not, but that talk is missing something crucial - it doesn’t take a data scientist to assemble basic reports about infection rates and mortality. Little to none of what differentiates “data scientist” from “data analyst” or “statistician” is involved in these reports. There is no massive data, no black-box modeling, really no new statistics…
Right now, she is apparently an activist. There is nothing wrong with being an activist. However, IMHO, being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist. No matter how qualified you were, once you became a passionate activist, you are no longer a "data scientist" or a "data analyst" or a "statistician" on the topic. Again, there is nothing wrong with being an activist, but you can't be both.…
... you won't explain why you believe this and then complains that no explaining it will get you downvote?
You are aware that to be able to contest your logic, we need to be aware of your logic, right?
Okay so I'll make a guess, the fact that they defends a cause, their bias might affect how they present data? Is that why you believe they can't be a data scientist? That's a pretty naïve view of the world sadly. The fact that someone doesn't act like an activist, doesn't make them unbiased sadly. The only thing that it change is how aware you are from a potential bias.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#208There’s a lot of talk in this thread of whether Jones is a data scientist or not, but that talk is missing something crucial - it doesn’t take a data scientist to assemble basic reports about infection rates and mortality. Little to none of what differentiates “data scientist” from “data analyst” or “statistician” is involved in these reports. There is no massive data, no black-box modeling, really no new statistics…
Right now, she is apparently an activist. There is nothing wrong with being an activist. However, IMHO, being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist. No matter how qualified you were, once you became a passionate activist, you are no longer a "data scientist" or a "data analyst" or a "statistician" on the topic. Again, there is nothing wrong with being an activist, but you can't be both.…
And?
First, just because you are an activist doesn't mean you deserve to have cops point guns at your kids. That smacks of harassment.
Second, the charges keep mutating. The wrongdoing should be what was in the warrant. That smacks of harassment.
Third, Florida leadership has been diddling with the official numbers so continuously throughout the entire epidemic that it has lost all credibility.
The Bayesian priors suggest taking what DeSantis and Co are saying with extreme skepticism.
Especially since if Rebekah Jones were really wrong, they just wouldn't care about her at all.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Based on your logic of "if X can no longer be Y". Or are only statisticians/analysts somehow effected by this?
wow.
Your argument appeared to be that someone who is an activist can't also have a role that requires discipline and focus while interpreting messy data. In that case, there's no difference between that person being a data scientist or a medical professional.
Do you care to expand on your argument, and perhaps provide support as to why, for example, it's okay for a medical professional to also be an activist but not for a data scientist or tax accountant? Where's the line, and why?
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
wow.
You didn't support your argument with any explanation, so there's no room for "wow" non-statements when people interpret your argument in a way that you don't understand. Your argument appeared to be that someone who is an activist can't also have a role that requires discipline and focus while interpreting messy data. In that case, there's no difference between that person being a data scientist or a medical profess…