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Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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There’s a lot of talk in this thread of whether Jones is a data scientist or not, but that talk is missing something crucial - it doesn’t take a data scientist to assemble basic reports about infection rates and mortality. Little to none of what differentiates “data scientist” from “data analyst” or “statistician” is involved in these reports. There is no massive data, no black-box modeling, really no new statistics…

Right now, she is apparently an activist. There is nothing wrong with being an activist. However, IMHO, being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist. No matter how qualified you were, once you became a passionate activist, you are no longer a "data scientist" or a "data analyst" or a "statistician" on the topic. Again, there is nothing wrong with being an activist, but you can't be both.…

> being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist

This is just silly. So if a medical doctor becomes an activist on diabetes, they're no longer a medical doctor?

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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So, you don't like him, but that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech which is the point I'm making. This sort of behavior is toxic to society at large, and so are the implications. I'm glad your political views are of the correct sort....today. Oh, wikipedia.

Think of the financial institution that chooses not to do business with him as a bakery, and sargon is a gay wedding cake. Banned from society? I was unaware that you're "banned from society" because private business Patreon doesn't want a relationship with you.

The modern examples of a gay couple being refused service is a poor example. They can’t just go to the other financial institutions, because all of them have black-listed them. An Internet business cannot feasibly operate on cash alone.

Just like any farmer in the 1800s can just go lay his own railroad tracks across the continent, every website that hosts wrongthink is equally capable of creating their own banks, payment processors, data centers, and internet connections. These businesses aren’t restaurants. They’re critical, privatized infrastructure.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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If she were providing a bogus view of the pandemic, there could be consequences for public health. That doesn't seem to actually be the case as far as I can tell, but the magnitude of the punishment seems about right for the alleged crime.

If this were the case, the whole Trump Administration and most Republican governors would be getting decades in jail.

Well, we can hope, can't we?

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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A rabid credential-ist might point out Isaac Newton never got a Physics degree. Credentialism: belief in or reliance on academic or other formal qualifications as the best measure of a person's intelligence or ability to do a particular job

I’m not complaining that she lacks credentials. Someone else brought up irrelevant credentials to try to bolster her image. I’m complaining about that.

You mean that irrelevant point:

>making your Doctor with emphasis on data science, has nothing todo with understanding simple data like covid-cases right?

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Right now, she is apparently an activist. There is nothing wrong with being an activist. However, IMHO, being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist. No matter how qualified you were, once you became a passionate activist, you are no longer a "data scientist" or a "data analyst" or a "statistician" on the topic. Again, there is nothing wrong with being an activist, but you can't be both.…

> being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist This is just silly. So if a medical doctor becomes an activist on diabetes, they're no longer a medical doctor?

when did I mention "medical doctor"?

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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> being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist This is just silly. So if a medical doctor becomes an activist on diabetes, they're no longer a medical doctor?

when did I mention "medical doctor"?

Based on your logic of "if X can no longer be Y". Or are only statisticians/analysts somehow effected by this?

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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There’s a lot of talk in this thread of whether Jones is a data scientist or not, but that talk is missing something crucial - it doesn’t take a data scientist to assemble basic reports about infection rates and mortality. Little to none of what differentiates “data scientist” from “data analyst” or “statistician” is involved in these reports. There is no massive data, no black-box modeling, really no new statistics…

Right now, she is apparently an activist. There is nothing wrong with being an activist. However, IMHO, being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist. No matter how qualified you were, once you became a passionate activist, you are no longer a "data scientist" or a "data analyst" or a "statistician" on the topic. Again, there is nothing wrong with being an activist, but you can't be both.…

I'm an activist about childhood poverty and education. This makes its way into my data science work because I pursue projects and analyses that allow me to understand how poverty affects education progress. I often explicitly state my biases, because I am sure my interpretation of data is colored by my pre-existing beliefs. Yet, I often discover analyses that I wouldn't otherwise have considered due to my beliefs — and I have integrity — I continually update my beliefs based on data. So, on one hand I agree that being an activist can bias one's interpretation of data, but I also think that the biases can be essential for generating useful hypotheses to guide analysis.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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CBS includes an additional detail:

"Florida Department of Law Enforcement officials said Rebekah Jones has been under investigation since early November after someone illegally accessed the state’s emergency alert health system...."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/e2-80-98censored-by-the...

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Agreed--as a Florida resident, I have heard a variety of highly-charged opinions on this story from many of my fellow residents, but very few hard facts to confirm or deny any particular narrative. I think the raid on Ms. Jones home was a grotesque and unwarranted use of police force, but I also think her "whistle-blowing" story is highly questionable based on the facts available.

I don't know what the raid on Ms. Jones house was about and am going to reserve judgment until I do. There's just so much weirdness. She calls herself a data scientist, which she may well consider herself to be, but the state appears to have hired her as a website developer, and fired her as a website developer, because she refused to put out data in her capacity as a web developer that the state's paid, official dat…

According to the article in the Tampa Bay Times, Jones' official title was:

Geographic information system manager for the Florida Department of Health's Division of Disease Control and Health Protection

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