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Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by ptero »

josho wrote: post #153
fdschoeneman wrote: post #97

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I think it would be helpful if you let us know why you believe it is obvious.

In what sane world do you merit a police raid for publishing public health data? Assuming the worst that she accessed a computer she was not authorized to access. This data, in the aggregate, is public data. Regardless innocent until proven guilty applies. And to date the state hasn’t even made their charges public which seems ridiculous. ‘I have an arrest warrant for you, but I can’t tell you the charge’.

Some personal medical data is very sensitive, and for a good reason. I am not claiming that this is true in this case, and the state does have to argue and prove why it decided that both the search and the arrest were justified; but it is also not clear at this point that there is no case either.

Publishing public, aggregated, anonymous health data should not be a cause for this arrest; and I hope the judge that signed the warrant understands this. So there must be a different explanation and the state must provide it, and quickly.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by [deleted] »

xibalba wrote: post #76
nix23 wrote: post #43

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>>with dual degrees in earth science and journalism in 2012 >>received a dual master's degree in geography and mass communication >>where she completed course work with an emphasis on data science and was working on a doctoral dissertation titled Using Native American Sitescapes to Extend the North American Paleotempestological Record Through Coupled Remote Sensing and Climatological Analysis https://en.wikipedia.org…

Which of those degrees qualifies her as a data scientist capable of contravening WHO recommendations? Moreover, she is repeatedly referred to in the press as a data scientist, but all accounts of her actual work are that of a dashboard developer. Having done both myself, I can attest that they are very different types of work warranting very different training.

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Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by Jackson12 »

Hello71 wrote: post #110
Jackson12 wrote: post #104

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If a cop willfully lies on a warrant they are generally civilly liable. I am by no means saying that no one in the criminal justice systems acts unethically. But if a judge signs a warrant for someone's arrest there is almost always good reason to suspect they committed a crime.

yes, and if a cop murders a civilian they are (supposed to be) liable, but innumerable news stories over the past... long time have shown that not to be the case far too often.

I actually can think of no case where a cop clearly shot someone in bad faith and wasn't ultimately charged. It's much more often the case that the cop has some plausible argument that they made a bad decision in good faith. Which makes the cases very hard to prosecute. It's pretty seldom the case that prosecutors corruptly ignore clear cut misconduct.

There are flaws in the justice system. And by no means is it totally fair. But in this sort of situation, where a judge has seen the evidence and issued a warrant, usually there is usually something there. It's very possible this is selective prosecution. But, I'll bet you a good sum of money at even odds that there's probable cause she committed a crime.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by MereInterest »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #130
MereInterest wrote: post #125

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> She had over 20 minutes of knocking and a few phone calls in that period. So what? If somebody is knocking on my door, in the middle of the night, claiming to be a police officer, then making phone calls to verify that is 100% reasonable. If I had just been fired for politically motivated reasons, then making phone calls to alert the media when your home is being raided is 100% reasonable. > They’ll most likely eve…

It was a sunny morning, not the middle of the night. Obviously that's a minor detail, but it's indicative of a larger problem - there's been a big game of telephone on the actual circumstances of this raid, so your mental image of what happened may be different than what the video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of7ITokML-A ) shows.

Good point, and thank you. The relevant pieces that I had remembered were that there was a police raid for a non-violent crime, and was emphasizing that that is not an urgent issue. It's the same way that if you see police lights pulling you over on a deserted road, you should call to verify that it is a legitimate officer.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by nix23 »

xibalba wrote: post #127
eganist wrote: post #79

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> Which of those degrees qualifies her as a data scientist capable of contravening WHO recommendations? Literally all of her research involved gathering and communicating relevant insights from vast and disparate data sets, which is the role you just described. > Having done both myself, I can attest that they are very different types of work warranting very different training. She's educated as a data scientist spec…

> She's educated as a data scientist specific to a given field. > [data scientist] is the role you just described. No. She's not a data scientist and she herself doesn't even make this claim [1] Her job titles were: 1) GIS Analyst and 2) Geographic Information Systems Manager. Both are systems/dev roles. Clearly, neither is a position from which one is qualified to contravene the WHO. Her degrees (per her own LinkedI…

>GIS Analyst

You know what GIS means? Geo INFORMATION System....Analyst.

Not many other Fields produces more Data then geo...maybe Weather...that's more complicated data (and hard to interpret) as most people who claim the title Data Scientist will ever see.

>But she's not a data scientist.

Stop with that it's no even a real job, it's a base training. Do you really think a Data Scientist has any plan what Cern Data s even mean...no.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by mythrwy »

craigching wrote: post #98
MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #88

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Calling a woman a drama queen is not sexist. Just like calling a dumb man a meathead. It would be sexists to say "all women are drama queens." Police some other type of derogatory remark elsewhere please. You're adding nothing to the conversation.

Do we really need the derogatory remarks in the first place?

That's a separate, (but important) topic.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by cronix »

walrus01 wrote: post #160
cronix wrote: post #156

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How about blacklisting people from monetary/financial services such as banks and credit card co's based on their political views? That goes even further. https://spectator.us/topic/financial-blacklisting-sargon-akk... https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/02/27/financial-blacklis...

As shown by the well known bastion of unbiased, neutral, apolitical news... Breitbart . Quite honestly this looks like a toxic, bigoted individual. I'm absolutely unsurprised that some organizations choose not to do business with him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benjamin

So, you don't like him, but that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech which is the point I'm making. This sort of behavior is toxic to society at large, and so are the implications. I'm glad your political views are of the correct sort....today. Oh, wikipedia.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

stretchcat wrote: post #151
SamoyedFurFluff wrote: post #66

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The cops aren’t wild animals. They should have the ability to figure out whether or not a web developer/data scientist at home with warrants for nonviolent allegations is worth drawing a gun in a house with children in it. We need to hold cops to a higher standard of behavior.

In Florida, even web developers are allowed to own guns. It sounds like the cops kept a level head and didn't shoot anybody. This was probably pretty routine for Florida cops.

This particular warrant case is not being searched for any violent behavior and has no history of violence, with the warrant happening in a place with no history of violence or abuse. There is no reason to be pulling guns in a home with children as soon as one enters it.

It shouldn’t be routine to draw weapons in a place where there is no reason to presume weapons exist.

Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones

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Post by beervirus »

tedd4u wrote: post #152
beervirus wrote: post #53

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Having degrees in irrelevant fields is... irrelevant.

A rabid credential-ist might point out Isaac Newton never got a Physics degree. Credentialism: belief in or reliance on academic or other formal qualifications as the best measure of a person's intelligence or ability to do a particular job

I’m not complaining that she lacks credentials. Someone else brought up irrelevant credentials to try to bolster her image. I’m complaining about that.
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