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US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by hindsightbias »

gbh444g wrote: post #47
hindsightbias wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With such a wide diversity in radical patents, Occam’s Razor should be applied. He is either a magnitude more brilliant than Einstein or he’s a crackpot. “There is no relationship whatsoever between my assigned duties and the invention. The invention was made independently of any job performance or assigned tasks by the Branch or Section.” https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37134/emails-show-navy...

Or maybe he's another Edison. I mean, he's likely the nominal inventor: other people do the research, but only his name appears on papers.

Any of 5 or so of those patents would win a Nobel Prize if real. And any PhD working with/for him would have strangled him already if he left contributors off.

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Post by dnautics »

mypalmike wrote: post #16
ksaj wrote: post #9

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There are a lot of patents for things that are not yet known to work, but are plausible. Things that are in study stage often get patents if they are novel enough, to avoid someone else coming in and getting rich off your research before you've even had a chance to pay back your investors (let alone yourself). It's not a patent troll thing. It's protecting your investment. A lot of money goes into research, and there…

If an invention cannot be "reduced to practice", it is not patentable. My understanding is that reduction to practice means the invention has been actually built by the inventor, or that it is fully disclosed in a patent application such that a reasonably skilled person could construct the invention. If an invention hinges on some entirely theoretical concept that can not be demonstrated by even the most highly skill…

> "reduced to practice"

That is de facto no longer a consideration by the USPTO. Congress could force the PTO to require evidence of production. That would be neat.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by dnautics »

nullc wrote: post #22
mokus wrote: post #20

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If it can’t be built, how does the patent harm anyone except the one who wasted their money to get the patent? There will never be a licensee or infringement to sue over.

Later, someone invents the stuff to make a related idea work. The patent holder here sues. His patent is technically invalid, because it couldn't be reduced to practice. Patents are presumed valid. So the burden of disproving it rests on the real inventor. They'll be advised to accept a settlement with the troll.

Doesn't the production of the related device show evidence that the original device could have been reduced to practice?

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Post by dnautics »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #31
mokus wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it can’t be built, how does the patent harm anyone except the one who wasted their money to get the patent? There will never be a licensee or infringement to sue over.

If you can't build it today, but someone can build it in five or ten years, the patent lets you hold them hostage because you guessed right (even though you didn't do any of the work). That is not morally right. It also isn't the intent of patents, because it does absolutely nothing to further the progress of the useful arts and sciences.

If you're complaining that patent laws aren't morally right or they don't reflect their original intent, boy do I have some news for you about other laws...

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by egfx »

ihunter2839 wrote: post #25

Curious as to what others here think about the idea that the Tic Tac UFO could be some sort of high energy particle beam being controlled from the ground? My mom unfortunately passed from cancer, but she was able to get proton beam therapy for a tumor that would have been inaccessible with traditional radiation. This, as I understand it, is because a proton beam sheds the majority of it's energy at the very end of it…

Yep. I had this thought from the very beginning. It checks all the boxes for me because I had a personal experience with the exact same thing as what's being popularly described, a white glowing bouncing ping pong ball object moving very very erratically in the night sky. Iv'e commented a few times about it but I found this interesting, Advances in Radar Techniques. (https://www.google.com/books/edition/Advances_in_Radar_Techn...) which says that one of the most recent advances is the ability to detect holograms. It's a bit curious considering everything.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by dawnerd »

colechristensen wrote: post #32
ubertoop wrote: post #27

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The patent is really only half of the story here. The bigger question is why does the US Navy own this patents? And, how does this relate to the pill shaped UFO that navy pilots verified having seen over the last decade performing antigravity maneuvers? On December 30th 2020 the United States Senate had requested for the Pentagon for an explanation of this UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon). The Senate said the Pen…

Publishing nonsense is a good way to spread disinformation to your adversaries and waste their resources, likewise to “explain” things you want to keep secret which have vaguely similar properties. But also in a large organization there will be pockets of incompetence which are more expensive to eradicate than they cost to leave be. If you’re making sure to do zero nonsense, you’re probably also preventing some unexp…

Really it's only public because they want it to be seen. Secret research doesn't just end up in a patent database. I have a feeling you 100% nailed that it's just more of a distraction which makes it even more peculiar.

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Post by adamredwoods »

> the acoustic energy from the at least two sound generators causing each of the electrically charged cavity surfaces to vibrate such that a second electromagnetic field is generated;

This patent claims to create electromagnetic waves from sound waves vibrating gas? Seems like an inefficient way to create an electromagnetic field (if even possible)?

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Post by lucas_membrane »

ubertoop wrote: post #27
ksaj wrote: post #5

This relies on the existence of the graviton, which at this point is is not actually known to exist. Some would even argue that there is no reason for it to exist. There are a few competing theories of gravity that don't jive at all with what's discussed in pseudo-factual language in the patent. It doesn't help that his only source cited seems to be his own, albeit peer reviewed, paper. I hope that paper at least cit…

The patent is really only half of the story here. The bigger question is why does the US Navy own this patents? And, how does this relate to the pill shaped UFO that navy pilots verified having seen over the last decade performing antigravity maneuvers? On December 30th 2020 the United States Senate had requested for the Pentagon for an explanation of this UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon). The Senate said the Pen…

I thought that the 'inertial mass reduction' was required to provide the 10 ^33 w/m^2 required to rev the engine. That might be enough to ignite empty space.

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Post by Rebelgecko »

ubertoop wrote: post #7
new_guy wrote: post #6

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> It makes sense to patent an idea based on what he's hoping will eventually become a fleshed out scientific theory with proofs and whatnot, it doesn't mean any of it will turn out to be correct. It just means if it does find proof, he could get rich. It would just make him yet another patent troll. The US patent system is beyond absurd. Unless he can physically demonstrate a fully working 'gravitational wave generat…

Maybe, but the patent is also owned by the US Navy. Why? And what does this have to do - if anything - with the same shape UFO reported by the US Navy in 2004?

It's owned by the Navy because the inventor is an employee of the Navy who wrote the patent on DOD time and used DOD resources. They almost have certainly have a policy requiring that under those circumstances the patent must be assigned to the Navy
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