Live data from Hacker News

US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

patents.google.com

1–10 of 97 posts

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#2
Check out these patents currently assigned to US Secretary of Navy and invented by "Salvatore Cezar Pais"

https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais

Then think about the tic tac ufo UFO reports from US Navy fighter pilots [1]

What's going on here? Disinformation campaign from US Navy? Actual patents? Maybe the downloadbal PDFs are malware vectors for espionage?

Seems highly unlikely that this tech actually exists AND is publicly available information, right?

[1] https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#3
post #2

Check out these patents currently assigned to US Secretary of Navy and invented by "Salvatore Cezar Pais" https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais Then think about the tic tac ufo UFO reports from US Navy fighter pilots [1] What's going on here? Disinformation campaign from US Navy? Actual patents? Maybe the downloadbal PDFs are malware vectors for espionage? Seems highly unlikely that this tech actu…

With such a wide diversity in radical patents, Occam’s Razor should be applied. He is either a magnitude more brilliant than Einstein or he’s a crackpot.

“There is no relationship whatsoever between my assigned duties and the invention. The invention was made independently of any job performance or assigned tasks by the Branch or Section.”

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37134/emails-show-navy...

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#4
post #2

Check out these patents currently assigned to US Secretary of Navy and invented by "Salvatore Cezar Pais" https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais Then think about the tic tac ufo UFO reports from US Navy fighter pilots [1] What's going on here? Disinformation campaign from US Navy? Actual patents? Maybe the downloadbal PDFs are malware vectors for espionage? Seems highly unlikely that this tech actu…

With such a wide diversity in radical patents, Occam’s Razor should be applied. He is either a magnitude more brilliant than Einstein or he’s a crackpot. “There is no relationship whatsoever between my assigned duties and the invention. The invention was made independently of any job performance or assigned tasks by the Branch or Section.” https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37134/emails-show-navy...

That's fair, but then how do you explain the Tic Tac UFO reports from US Navy pilots? [1]

[1] https://youtu.be/PkPn-YMp9vI

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#5
This relies on the existence of the graviton, which at this point is is not actually known to exist. Some would even argue that there is no reason for it to exist. There are a few competing theories of gravity that don't jive at all with what's discussed in pseudo-factual language in the patent.

It doesn't help that his only source cited seems to be his own, albeit peer reviewed, paper. I hope that paper at least cites someone other than himself. So all this talk about gravitons being EM and photon carriers is a whole lot of guestimating. It doesn't seem to connect in any way with LIGO's expectations and results.

It makes sense to patent an idea based on what he's hoping will eventually become a fleshed out scientific theory with proofs and whatnot, it doesn't mean any of it will turn out to be correct. It just means if it does find proof, he could get rich.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#6
post #5

This relies on the existence of the graviton, which at this point is is not actually known to exist. Some would even argue that there is no reason for it to exist. There are a few competing theories of gravity that don't jive at all with what's discussed in pseudo-factual language in the patent. It doesn't help that his only source cited seems to be his own, albeit peer reviewed, paper. I hope that paper at least cit…

> It makes sense to patent an idea based on what he's hoping will eventually become a fleshed out scientific theory with proofs and whatnot, it doesn't mean any of it will turn out to be correct. It just means if it does find proof, he could get rich.

It would just make him yet another patent troll. The US patent system is beyond absurd.

Unless he can physically demonstrate a fully working 'gravitational wave generator', the patent shouldn't be granted.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#7
post #6
post #5

This relies on the existence of the graviton, which at this point is is not actually known to exist. Some would even argue that there is no reason for it to exist. There are a few competing theories of gravity that don't jive at all with what's discussed in pseudo-factual language in the patent. It doesn't help that his only source cited seems to be his own, albeit peer reviewed, paper. I hope that paper at least cit…

> It makes sense to patent an idea based on what he's hoping will eventually become a fleshed out scientific theory with proofs and whatnot, it doesn't mean any of it will turn out to be correct. It just means if it does find proof, he could get rich. It would just make him yet another patent troll. The US patent system is beyond absurd. Unless he can physically demonstrate a fully working 'gravitational wave generat…

Maybe, but the patent is also owned by the US Navy.

Why?

And what does this have to do - if anything - with the same shape UFO reported by the US Navy in 2004?

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#8
post #2

Check out these patents currently assigned to US Secretary of Navy and invented by "Salvatore Cezar Pais" https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais Then think about the tic tac ufo UFO reports from US Navy fighter pilots [1] What's going on here? Disinformation campaign from US Navy? Actual patents? Maybe the downloadbal PDFs are malware vectors for espionage? Seems highly unlikely that this tech actu…

Regardless of whether or not gravitons actually exist, it is feasible that the US government will want to signal to adversaries that they do have this technology. After all, a deterrent is useless if your adversary doesn't know it exists. You can't be deterred by something you don't know about.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#9
post #6
post #5

This relies on the existence of the graviton, which at this point is is not actually known to exist. Some would even argue that there is no reason for it to exist. There are a few competing theories of gravity that don't jive at all with what's discussed in pseudo-factual language in the patent. It doesn't help that his only source cited seems to be his own, albeit peer reviewed, paper. I hope that paper at least cit…

> It makes sense to patent an idea based on what he's hoping will eventually become a fleshed out scientific theory with proofs and whatnot, it doesn't mean any of it will turn out to be correct. It just means if it does find proof, he could get rich. It would just make him yet another patent troll. The US patent system is beyond absurd. Unless he can physically demonstrate a fully working 'gravitational wave generat…

There are a lot of patents for things that are not yet known to work, but are plausible. Things that are in study stage often get patents if they are novel enough, to avoid someone else coming in and getting rich off your research before you've even had a chance to pay back your investors (let alone yourself).

It's not a patent troll thing. It's protecting your investment. A lot of money goes into research, and there is no reason to begrudge them the initial benefits.

Yes there are patent trolls. But they are usually identified by their habit of buying other people's patents and then following up with legal threats on anything that appears to infringe. This isn't such a case, as far as I can tell.

He has a novel theory. He's designed a theoretical device that is based on that theory. It might feel to people "not in the biz" to be on the crazy side, but absolutely everything about quantum computing was considered fringy only a couple years ago. The relevant patents in that area are now being put to use, and the holders are definitely not trolls for doing it.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

#10
It’s rubbish, whatever propulsion method you have you still need to push the air out of the way to move the thing forwards which takes the same energy using imaginary gravitational waves or a jet engine. No magic is going to make the air get out of the way any faster
Post reply on HN