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Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by Barrin92 »

miles wrote: post #17
lwansbrough wrote: post #15

This whole thing has a very boring, very likely answer described in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le7Fqbsrrm8&t=1300s Essentially, there are a few different perspective/camera quirks coming together in these videos which can (apparently) trick even well trained pilots.

> there are a few different perspective/camera quirks coming together in these videos which can (apparently) trick even well trained pilots. How does that explain the radar readings? "The tic tac – so-called because of its rounded shape and white colour – was caught on video as the US Navy attempted to identify a series of objects spotted on radar flying off America’s west coast in November 2004. ... The sighting cam…

Mick Wests breakdown is sufficient to explain all of the actual footage we have, and you can verify it yourself by doing trigonometry with the data on the screen.

It's completely unnecessary to appeal to the credentials of fighter pilots, following this logic I'd have to believe in Mermaids given how many sailors have allegedly spotted one over the centuries.

It's truly astonishing that a man who provides a basic, mundane and evidence based explanation that someone can follow along at home is routinely downvoted while people upvoted UFO alien conspiracy garbage.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by [deleted] »

mcswell wrote: post #23
_gt8f wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be worth something to watch part of the Lex Fridman interview with one of the pilots, David Fravor. The entire podcast is four hours long and goes over his career and experiences, I'd argue establishes him as a competent naval officer and pilot. The timecode is when he describes the actual event- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8zcAttP1E&t=4264s In the interview he also describes the record keeping process an…

I think it was Richard Feynman who said the easiest person in the world to fool is yourself. I have no doubt this pilot is a good officer and pilot, but that doesn't mean he saw what he thinks he saw.

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Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by BuckRogers »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #31
mokus wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it can’t be built, how does the patent harm anyone except the one who wasted their money to get the patent? There will never be a licensee or infringement to sue over.

If you can't build it today, but someone can build it in five or ten years, the patent lets you hold them hostage because you guessed right (even though you didn't do any of the work). That is not morally right. It also isn't the intent of patents, because it does absolutely nothing to further the progress of the useful arts and sciences.

Is it a “guess” though? I think that’s a stretch to call it such. That’s not really what’s going on.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by saul_goodman »

Barrin92 wrote: post #41
miles wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there are a few different perspective/camera quirks coming together in these videos which can (apparently) trick even well trained pilots. How does that explain the radar readings? "The tic tac – so-called because of its rounded shape and white colour – was caught on video as the US Navy attempted to identify a series of objects spotted on radar flying off America’s west coast in November 2004. ... The sighting cam…

Mick Wests breakdown is sufficient to explain all of the actual footage we have, and you can verify it yourself by doing trigonometry with the data on the screen. It's completely unnecessary to appeal to the credentials of fighter pilots, following this logic I'd have to believe in Mermaids given how many sailors have allegedly spotted one over the centuries. It's truly astonishing that a man who provides a basic, mu…

You are absolutely right. On the other hand, why not just add mermaids to the equation: https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/comments/kushry/cross_post_i_kn...

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by bdowling »

smolder wrote: post #30
mokus wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it can’t be built, how does the patent harm anyone except the one who wasted their money to get the patent? There will never be a licensee or infringement to sue over.

It only wastes various people's time to patent something that can't be built. (The authors, regulators, and on-lookers.) However to speculatively patent something that later turns out to be viable could mean that some other party may have been prevented from taking the idea beyond speculation, since they can't capitalize on it, right? It hurts the incentive to really innovate when the patent system is clogged with sp…

> ... some other party may have been prevented from taking the idea beyond speculation, since they can't capitalize on it, right?

That's not really true. Suppose my invention requires A, B, and C, but C doesn't exist yet. Now suppose another inventor invents C and patents it. If I can't make my invention without C (i.e., there is no substitute), then they can charge whatever they want for it. They will take all of the profits.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by gbh444g »

hindsightbias wrote: post #3
ubertoop wrote: post #2

Check out these patents currently assigned to US Secretary of Navy and invented by "Salvatore Cezar Pais" https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais Then think about the tic tac ufo UFO reports from US Navy fighter pilots [1] What's going on here? Disinformation campaign from US Navy? Actual patents? Maybe the downloadbal PDFs are malware vectors for espionage? Seems highly unlikely that this tech actu…

With such a wide diversity in radical patents, Occam’s Razor should be applied. He is either a magnitude more brilliant than Einstein or he’s a crackpot. “There is no relationship whatsoever between my assigned duties and the invention. The invention was made independently of any job performance or assigned tasks by the Branch or Section.” https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37134/emails-show-navy...

Or maybe he's another Edison. I mean, he's likely the nominal inventor: other people do the research, but only his name appears on papers.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by voldacar »

ksaj wrote: post #5

This relies on the existence of the graviton, which at this point is is not actually known to exist. Some would even argue that there is no reason for it to exist. There are a few competing theories of gravity that don't jive at all with what's discussed in pseudo-factual language in the patent. It doesn't help that his only source cited seems to be his own, albeit peer reviewed, paper. I hope that paper at least cit…

If we posit that the graviton does exist and suspend all disbelief, is the rest of the patent logically sound? If the theoretical basis of this device is correct, would it actually do what it claims to?

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by maxden »

swader999 wrote: post #36
ihunter2839 wrote: post #25

Curious as to what others here think about the idea that the Tic Tac UFO could be some sort of high energy particle beam being controlled from the ground? My mom unfortunately passed from cancer, but she was able to get proton beam therapy for a tumor that would have been inaccessible with traditional radiation. This, as I understand it, is because a proton beam sheds the majority of it's energy at the very end of it…

The viking man has a good run down on all this tech: https://rumble.com/vbodst-u.s.-space-force-technologies-and-...

aka the "QAnon Shaman" from the Capitol Hill riots.

Re: US Navy – Tic Tac UFO – High frequency gravitational wave generator

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Post by s1artibartfast »

mypalmike wrote: post #16
ksaj wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot of patents for things that are not yet known to work, but are plausible. Things that are in study stage often get patents if they are novel enough, to avoid someone else coming in and getting rich off your research before you've even had a chance to pay back your investors (let alone yourself). It's not a patent troll thing. It's protecting your investment. A lot of money goes into research, and there…

If an invention cannot be "reduced to practice", it is not patentable. My understanding is that reduction to practice means the invention has been actually built by the inventor, or that it is fully disclosed in a patent application such that a reasonably skilled person could construct the invention. If an invention hinges on some entirely theoretical concept that can not be demonstrated by even the most highly skill…

> My understanding is that reduction to practice means the invention has been actually built by the inventor

This is not the case at all.

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