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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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w_t_payne wrote: post #431
enriquto wrote: post #404

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> confidently assert 2020-12-21 15:12 over, say, 2020-12-22 15:15 via shadows Not at all. By visual inspection you can see whether it's the morning or the afternoon (if you know the orientation of the landmarks). I guess by image processing you could get a precision of +- 1h maybe?

How precise is a sundial? How high is the resolution of the camera? I'd imagine that on a bright sunny day with a high resolution camera showing clean sharp shadows, it'd be possible to get a precision much better than +/-1h.

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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by HeadsUpHigh »

radlad wrote: post #583
blacklight wrote: post #512

I personally don't find their ability to remain online that surprising. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building, maintaining and hacking things. People who, even without a solid CS background, would spend hours a day learning new things, developing distributed protocols, evading DNS blocks and hosting their content wherever they could to make it accessible - included…

> And even if they wanted to hire some smart engineers to do the job for them, we all know that engineers tend to swing on the other opposite of the ideological spectrum. Those who have built systems for escaping REAL authoritarian censorship would rightfully feel disgusted if asked to apply their knowledge to provide a safe harbour for rednecks to vomit their conspiracy-theories-fueled hate. I'm not sure this is tru…

>This seems to imply that nations which have copyright law are imposing authoritarian censorship on their citizens.

This is exactly the point of most anti-copyright parties.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

armada651 wrote: post #333
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #315

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> Are you saying that staying silent is the answer once you have people organizing to take down the government? How will your business operate once the government is down? Let's dispatch with the second one first. Even if you bulldozed the entire city of DC and everyone who works there was permanently relocated to the North Pole by Santa Claus to make toys for little children forever, there would still be a governmen…

> At which point it's not clear that we even need a step two, because then the relevant people are in jail. I know the US has the biggest prison population in the world, but you can't keep these people in prison for life. They will be released from jail at some point and start spreading their ideology again. I hate to pull a godwin, but "let's throw the insurrectionists in jail and that's the end of that" hasn't work…

> I know the US has the biggest prison population in the world, but you can't keep these people in prison for life.

I think murdering a police officer is a capital offense. You don't get back out of jail after that one.

But even for the people committing less violence than that, and who in turn eventually get released, they only stay released if they stay non-violent. Otherwise they're right back to jail.

> I hate to pull a godwin, but "let's throw the insurrectionists in jail and that's the end of that" hasn't worked out well historically. Let's just hope none of them writes a book while doing their time.

So now we're abandoning even the premise of free speech?

If people are engaged in violence you put them in jail. If people are non-violently saying dumb things and you don't agree with them, you say your thing too.

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Post by rubyist5eva »

rconti wrote: post #558
im3w1l wrote: post #181

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People on the left are constantly calling for and glorifying violence. Non-lethal violence. But still violence. I even saw it here on HN. EDIT: As this is getting downvotes, "punch a nazi" is the most common one, and many many examples can be found on eg twitter.

Yes, this is our political discourse thanks to the president. Comparing the president's insane rants in press conferences to some leftie nut on Twitter, throwing up our hands, and saying "both sides, amirite?" This rot is leadership rot.

You think this rot is because of Trump? Joe Biden said Mitt Romney, the most liberal milquotoast Republican in existence want to "put y'all back in chains" (referring to black people). Remember Hillary Clinton and the "basket of deplorables"?

This cancer is not unique to Trump's administration - it goes back to Reagan, if not further.

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Post by HeadsUpHigh »

mc32 wrote: post #108
jakelazaroff wrote: post #87

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If you don’t mind when platforms get rid of spam, child porn, normal porn, doxxing, death threats, ISIS recruitment videos or assassination contracts, then guess what: censorship has value to you, too.

Maybe misogynistic metal and rap music too? Maybe violent music and movies and video games... Why stop, we’re on a roll Very likely the World would be a better place if we only had happy music, happy movies, happy art. No angry art. No angry expression.

You write this as a hypothetical but this exact discussion has played out on torrent sites focused on music.

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Post by rubyist5eva »

ggggtez wrote: post #44
rubyist5eva wrote: post #28

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At this point - do you really think Apple is above this?

This is not a good argument, please go back to the drawing board. You are making the extraordinary claim, so you are the one that needs to provide evidence. No browser vendor has blocked any sites in the way you are describing. Not Firefox, Chrome, Safari, or IE. At best, you'll get a warning when you are about to hit a malware site, but that's about it. You can click right past it. So no, what you are saying is ridi…

> No browser vendor has blocked any sites in the way you are describing.

Chrome and Safari both use Google's "Safe Browsing Database" which outright blocks phishing scam sites. How long until this is expanded to "hate sites" because they "aren't safe"?

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by blacklight »

hodgesrm wrote: post #588
blacklight wrote: post #512

I personally don't find their ability to remain online that surprising. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building, maintaining and hacking things. People who, even without a solid CS background, would spend hours a day learning new things, developing distributed protocols, evading DNS blocks and hosting their content wherever they could to make it accessible - included…

> And even if they wanted to hire some smart engineers to do the job for them, we all know that engineers tend to swing on the other opposite of the ideological spectrum. Do we all really know that? Some very good technical people don't have particularly strong political views or keep them separate from their job. Example: lots of ordinary devs helped build porn sites.

As a dev I feel that building a platform to share conspiracy-fueled hate is way more immoral and damaging than building a platform to host porn content. At least porn doesn't harm anybody - except maybe your hand :)

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Post by vfclists »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #538
vfclists wrote: post #417

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Your home is not infrastructure. Internet service, banking and online payments are infrastructure just like water, gas and electricity and companies shouldn't have the right to cut you off on ideological grounds or because your spew out so called hate speech. Note I said internet service not a subscription to a social media service. Your internet provider may decline to provide you with email, hell the may even decli…

There is one electric company that serves my apartment. If I get cut off, I don’t get electricity. On the other hand, there are a thousand different cloud providers; surely at least one would have taken Parler on as a customer. And even failing that, it’s much easier for Parler to run their own servers than it is for me to run my own power plant.

Yes but they can only cut if you off for non payment, they can't cut you of for your political views. They can't even cut you off if you use your electricity to commit crimes.

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Post by ersii »

DanBC wrote: post #520
secondcoming wrote: post #426

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She is probably liable for that data egress bill. Also, how does some randomer have ten of terabytes of disk lying around?

> some randomer They're not a randomer, they're a person interested in data dumps.

donk_enby wants to be called she/her according to Twitter, unless you're speaking of someone else

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Post by sellyme »

BrandonMarc wrote: post #515
roywashere wrote: post #447

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So people post it on Parlor themselves, it is publicly available, but it would be illegal to download for me? That does not make much sense.

If you were to scape someone's private messages from Facebook - or their private posts - and then post them online en masse ... that may or may not be illegal in Europe, but it ain't ethically white. Grey at best.

Nothing being discussed was private. It was all globally visible.
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