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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by alborzb »

philshem wrote: post #405
jrochkind1 wrote: post #92

Also embarrassing: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archiv... > donk_enby had originally intended to grab data only from the day of the Capitol takeover, but found that the poor construction and security of Parler allowed her to capture, essentially, the entire website. That ended up being 56.7 terabytes of data, which included every public post on Parler, 412 million files in all—including 150 m…

They were downloading at 50 Gbps for a while https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348497204940595201 https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348440720504401921 Also, auth provider (twilio?) removed Parler as a client so for a short while it was possible to create accounts without a phone number (2FA). https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348298836930867204 edit: okta, free trial, thanks: https://news.ycombinator.com/…

Just a note here, it wasn't Twilio.

It was a free trial of Okta that they were using for their entire userbase.

https://twitter.com/okta/status/1348191370528256002?ref_src=...

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by polar »

j2bax wrote: post #267
MivLives wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious where someone just gets 56.7 tb of storage that quickly.

I believe the person that pulled it down is a digital archivist. I’m sure she has plenty of storage laying around for such occasions.

> laying around

ITYM lying around, unless this is a quirk of US English. Sorry to be pedantic!

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by DigitalSea »

Perhaps the most embarrassing thing about Parler besides the fact it was deplatformed so easily is that it was built on WordPress. And don't get me wrong, I love and use WordPress often, but to build such a large social media platform on-top of it? That just reeks of amateur.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by jon-wood »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #220
jrochkind1 wrote: post #92

Also embarrassing: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archiv... > donk_enby had originally intended to grab data only from the day of the Capitol takeover, but found that the poor construction and security of Parler allowed her to capture, essentially, the entire website. That ended up being 56.7 terabytes of data, which included every public post on Parler, 412 million files in all—including 150 m…

What exactly is the feed Amazon was getting from Parker from that much stuff? Like it needed just as much bandwidth if not more and dedicated boxes for software to run on. It wasnt cheap, or was it?

I don't have a good source on this, but I saw $300,000/month bandied about social media the other week.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by secondcoming »

philshem wrote: post #405
jrochkind1 wrote: post #92

Also embarrassing: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archiv... > donk_enby had originally intended to grab data only from the day of the Capitol takeover, but found that the poor construction and security of Parler allowed her to capture, essentially, the entire website. That ended up being 56.7 terabytes of data, which included every public post on Parler, 412 million files in all—including 150 m…

They were downloading at 50 Gbps for a while https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348497204940595201 https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348440720504401921 Also, auth provider (twilio?) removed Parler as a client so for a short while it was possible to create accounts without a phone number (2FA). https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348298836930867204 edit: okta, free trial, thanks: https://news.ycombinator.com/…

She is probably liable for that data egress bill.

Also, how does some randomer have ten of terabytes of disk lying around?

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by mschuster91 »

Jochim wrote: post #393
rendall wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed! We weren't talking about the 1st Amendment, but let's go where you lead: speech likely to incite imminent lawless action is illegal. Courts decide if that applies. Someday you might say "Politician Y should be hung by his thumbs". Politician Y and friends try to convince a judge that you thereby incite imminent lawless action. Of course, you were just feeling passionate, and no one reasonable would believe th…

> But if you wrote that on a site hosted on AWS, there is nothing in principle from Amazon taking the platform down. Politician Y calls his buddy Jeff Bezos, and fwoomp! Gone. This should be concerning. Why should it be concerning at all? There are a few thousand other hosting providers they can go to. The slightly stronger argument seems to be that the people making these death threats on Parler should not have been…

> The slightly stronger argument seems to be that the people making these death threats on Parler should not have been banned from Twitter/FB in the first place.

That's not a strong argument at all. Spouting death threats gets you arrested if you do it in public (and someone records it or calls the cops), so it should also lead to a time-limited or permanent ban from social networks.

Social networks are not a free-for-all zone.

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Post by ccortes »

rendall wrote: post #352
mschuster91 wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with? Parler had people discussing murdering Congresspeople and didn't do anything about it. No matter which faction of "what level of free speech is acceptable" one subscribes, this is never acceptable and it is no wonder that Parler got booted off.

> this is never acceptable I want you to understand what I'm about to say. Understand it in your bones: it is unacceptable to me and to you and it is reprehensible; and beliefs that you hold dear will someday, by someone, be seen as unacceptable and reprehensible. To protect the speech of the reprehensible is to protect your own speech. That's what I would like you to understand. David Goldberger didn't defend the ri…

> But if "planning and executing crimes" is the standard by which platforms should be shut down, then Facebook also should be shut down.

That's fine by me tbh

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by minot »

aljarry wrote: post #364
joshxyz wrote: post #291

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Jesus fucking christ i thought it's just some users table but 56.7 terabytes you mofos that's some s3 egress bill!

90$ per TB

Is there still no easy straightforward way in $current_year to put an absolute spend cap of say USD 0, USD 5, or USD 10 per month on Amazon.com web services or Google Cloud Platform?

I’d think I’d like to prepay a fixed dollar amount like USD 200 IF I anticipate some major event but really this is problematic for students. I just want to use the free tier. Why is this so hard?

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by Nextgrid »

secondcoming wrote: post #426
philshem wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were downloading at 50 Gbps for a while https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348497204940595201 https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348440720504401921 Also, auth provider (twilio?) removed Parler as a client so for a short while it was possible to create accounts without a phone number (2FA). https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348298836930867204 edit: okta, free trial, thanks: https://news.ycombinator.com/…

She is probably liable for that data egress bill. Also, how does some randomer have ten of terabytes of disk lying around?

Maybe the data compresses well and/or a lot of it is redundant (so instead of storing it raw you store it in a database and use relationships to link related pieces of data)?
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