Counter point: Parler was intentionally set up badly in order to certainly be breached in the near future.
Oh dear, people here are already infected by this "I choose my reality" bullshit.
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Is there still no easy straightforward way in $current_year to put an absolute spend cap of say USD 0, USD 5, or USD 10 per month on Amazon.com web services or Google Cloud Platform? I’d think I’d like to prepay a fixed dollar amount like USD 200 IF I anticipate some major event but really this is problematic for students. I just want to use the free tier. Why is this so hard?
The common excuse is "billing is heavily distributed and every product does it differently, so it's impossible to implement limits", but yeah, you're probably not the target audience.
Yes. A hard cost limit isn't a hard cost limit unless they start deleting resources like databases which has its own problems. One can imagine a semi-hard cost limit that only cuts off stateless services like EC2 and data egress but AWS apparently just doesn't care enough about courting customers like the GP to implement.
I agree that there is some financial risk to using AWS although my understanding is that they're pretty forgiving of surprise bills--at least the first time.
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She is probably liable for that data egress bill. Also, how does some randomer have ten of terabytes of disk lying around?
Given the speed I’m guessing it was towards S3 so there’s plenty of terabytes.
Didn't Parler just get booted from AWS though? Seems odd it'd go right back to Amazon.
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90$ per TB
Is there still no easy straightforward way in $current_year to put an absolute spend cap of say USD 0, USD 5, or USD 10 per month on Amazon.com web services or Google Cloud Platform? I’d think I’d like to prepay a fixed dollar amount like USD 200 IF I anticipate some major event but really this is problematic for students. I just want to use the free tier. Why is this so hard?
What's worse is that it costs something like $90 per TB of outbound bandwidth. That is absolute robbery and it is consistent across the cloud cartel.
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I believe the person that pulled it down is a digital archivist. I’m sure she has plenty of storage laying around for such occasions.
> laying around ITYM lying around, unless this is a quirk of US English. Sorry to be pedantic!
> unless this is a quirk of US English
It is indeed. Very common in colloquial speech around here.
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> this is never acceptable I want you to understand what I'm about to say. Understand it in your bones: it is unacceptable to me and to you and it is reprehensible; and beliefs that you hold dear will someday, by someone, be seen as unacceptable and reprehensible. To protect the speech of the reprehensible is to protect your own speech. That's what I would like you to understand. David Goldberger didn't defend the ri…
> But if "planning and executing crimes" is the standard by which platforms should be shut down, then Facebook also should be shut down. That's fine by me tbh
Not all crimes are created equal. It is illegal to use clotheslines to dry clothes in New York City. A protest to remove the law may involve using clotheslines. Would you deplatform for that?
Note, the reason why it is illegal goes back to preventing protesters from hanging up their banners / messages. An act to legally silence opponents.
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Is there still no easy straightforward way in $current_year to put an absolute spend cap of say USD 0, USD 5, or USD 10 per month on Amazon.com web services or Google Cloud Platform? I’d think I’d like to prepay a fixed dollar amount like USD 200 IF I anticipate some major event but really this is problematic for students. I just want to use the free tier. Why is this so hard?
they have alerts that can email you if you are approaching a limit but i don't think you can tie that to some automated shutting down of your stuff (i might be wrong i haven't worked in aws heavily for about 2 years now... believe others with more recent exp if they comment otherwise) tbh i kind of get why it is like this, aws is a business and they are only looking for your money. responsibility for keeping your pan…
I think you can tie alerts to automated actions that you write although I've never done so myself. Of course, that requires anticipating what could happen and what you're OK with taking down.
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When you say "far-right" I think you mean "moderate conservative."
The Mercers??! Rebecca Mercer?
Ideologically far right doesn't mean 'racists take over capitol hill'.
AOC could be considered fairly 'far left' she's not exactly a radical.
To the OP's point, I think Parler was trying to legit be an alternative where they didn't have Jack Dorsey in charge, but I'm doubtful if they were actually looking for the holocaust denying crowd.
I suggest probably their comfort zone would have been 'Fox News'.
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What puts me off Gab and Parler is that the vast majority are those alienated or banned from other platforms for the same reason, for the most part they all think the same way and the topic of conversation is almost exclusively political. Gab has some interesting groups which slightly mitigates this.
Scott Alexander put it well in Neutral vs. Conservative[1]: "if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches." [1] https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservativ...
This piece may be the single most intelligent thing I have read all week (though this perhaps does not speak well of my usual information sources...). :)
I feel like one of the defects in most of our discourse these days (from any position, on any subject) is an almost complete disregard for trying to understand opposing views (and even a lack of concern that ones assumptions about the opposition might not be entirely correct).
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If parler users believe it is important to them and to society as they say... what's the problem with just opening up a web browser and going to parler.com anyway? That's too big a burden for something so vitally important to it's users? I mean, don't get me wrong, I get that there are issues with corporate monopoly control of communication. And there are some things that will only work well as an app, not as a web p…
This is such a weird line of assertion that I wonder if you'd apply it in any other context. The problem doesn't just exist for dedicated Parler die-hards. The problem exists for Parler trying to become a compelling platform at all among everyone else. And that problem exists for all Parler users including all the would-be users and all people trying to develop a following on Parler. > Oh no we have to go to a bookma…
Yes, i would and have. In my own participation in (left) political organizing, I don't believe that we can rely on corporations to make it convenient for us, and say so. To be sure, the corporations convenience/inconvenience matters. But the inconvenience of having to access the thing in a browser instead of an app??? This seems like nothing to me.
The site actually getting shut down entirely is of course a lot more significant, I see much more of a point there. It's complaining about "oh no it's just so hard to access it via a web browser instead of an app" that seems ridiculous to me -- if you are organizing against the system -- and it's pretty clear to me that's what parler was doing; I am opposed to the politics they were doing it from, but not to organizing against the system -- you should expect and prepare for attempts to suppress. If "oh no we have to access in a web browser instead of an app" is all you get, you are doing great.