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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by dang »

shripadk wrote: post #170
f430 wrote: post #144

I genuinely believe that this is a case of incompetence willful or not. Who knows, maybe someone at parler knew and never raised the issue because they were disgruntled and actively shot down security measures....kind of like what I did before Basically a startup I worked for 12 years ago were fucking me big time on compensation so I purposefully argued against encrypting the database knowing how shoddy their securit…

So because you were not compensated properly you decided to screw the users of your company who had nothing to do with you being compensated less. You act like you are some kind of martyr but you are the sole person responsible for the human rights violations of thousands and potentially millions of unsuspecting users who used that service. I hope you can sleep well tonight knowing how you deliberately violated priva…

Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN. We've had to ask you this before, and we ban accounts that won't stop doing it. The rules apply regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: it looks like you've been breaking the site guidelines badly for quite a while now, by using HN primarily for political battle and posting lots of flamewar comments. That's seriously not ok. It's contributing to destroying this community, which is extremely vulnerable to such pressures.

I've been giving accounts a pass or letting them off with a warning when they've only been doing this during the collective fever of the last few days—but your account has been doing it for months, and that's very different. I've banned this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

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Post by nullsense »

tlrobinson wrote: post #251
KMag wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

Hah, this is great. If you don't get the references, it's Hanlon's Razor ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity") plus Arthur C. Clarke's "3rd law" ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.") Apparently it's called Grey's Law: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Grey%27s%20L...

Does that make it a "quotemanteau"?

Wait... Is that a thing? Are there more of these?

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by [deleted] »

Number157 wrote: post #317
koyote wrote: post #82

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I do not know if it was the original intention of the founders, but you can't ignore that the people who are/were funding it are influential far-right figures.

Are they though? Maybe I just lack some knowledge but it seems there's a trend where these definitions are shifting so that right become far right, and sometimes even people who would have been left are suddenly being called right. That said I don't know much about these particular people.

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Post by gerikson »

throwawayboise wrote: post #218
userbinator wrote: post #78

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Dates were represented as strings in "YYYYMMDD" format (so today would be "20210113053923") instead of UNIX timestamps Such a representation naturally avoids the Y2K38 problem, and could go beyond Y10K. It's traditional in Windows and DOS (neither of which have the Y2K38 problem) to store timestamps as a structure of fields. The other things you noted I agree with, however.

A timestamp is a timestamp. It isn't a date. If you need a date, use a proper date/time data type.

All timestamps have to start somewhere. If you want to avoid DST changes and leap seconds, you can use MJD, TAI or GPS time instead of UTC, but you might as well format it nicely so that you can see roughly at what (civil) date something happened.

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Post by _peeley »

idrios wrote: post #56
CryptoGhost wrote: post #32

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You don't even need to do that. The actual key to running an extremist / subversive / hate / unpopular website is NOT connecting the site to any in-person activities. As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. Sure, companies like Google or WordPress will ban you if they don't like you, but you can still get service from Cloudflare, major web hosts, or d…

Tbf, I don't think Parler ever saw itself as extremist. Obviously it was used by extremists, but as I've seen mentioned in other threads lately: When you create an alternative platform from the mainstream, the people who join it are either idealists, or are the people who were banned from the mainstream platforms. And if you don't have the resources to moderate those extremists (or foolishly choose not to), the extre…

"The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong." - Scott Alexander [0]

[0] https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservativ...

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Post by gerikson »

Groxx wrote: post #296
Earwig wrote: post #174

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Yes... kind of. Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 , there is a "basic format" without separators and an "extended format" that includes them for readability. However, a T is still required to separate the date and time in the most recent version of the standard.

ISO 8601 is pretty absurd when you actually read it. `2021-W02` and `--01-14` are valid, as is `--1013` (quick! guess what that means! and beware that `-1013` is valid too!) Please, everyone, use a single format at all times in your systems. I don't really care what it is, though I'm fond of `2021-01-14T06:28:08Z` because it's unambiguous. But don't just say "use ISO 8601", it's far too vague and you'll inevitably ha…

Without having read the spec...

* `2021-W02` means the second (ISO) week of 2021. Perfectly valid and used in a lot of planning.

* `--01-14` - I'm assuming this is a recurring date: every 14 Jan for every year

* `--1013` - at 1PM every 10th of the month? Guessing here

I believe ISO 8601 is a ISO codification of a DIN standard, and based on other standards processes I'm guessing some German manufacturing companies were the only ones who bothered showing up, so their internal software practices were encoded into the spec because no-one else cared..

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Post by trianglem »

outoftheabyss wrote: post #153
trianglem wrote: post #138

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Why? Seems like the level of discussion is not all that far away from the level on Parler.

Or on Twitter, or facebook Curiosity, exchange of views, diversifying the news and information I’m exposed to, follow some people I am interested in hearing from, respect for censorship stance. These are the first that spring to mind

Promoting fascism is not diversifying views, it’s propagating hate.

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Post by toomim »

koyote wrote: post #82
idrios wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbf, I don't think Parler ever saw itself as extremist. Obviously it was used by extremists, but as I've seen mentioned in other threads lately: When you create an alternative platform from the mainstream, the people who join it are either idealists, or are the people who were banned from the mainstream platforms. And if you don't have the resources to moderate those extremists (or foolishly choose not to), the extre…

I do not know if it was the original intention of the founders, but you can't ignore that the people who are/were funding it are influential far-right figures.

When you say "far-right" I think you mean "moderate conservative."

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Post by rendall »

kennywinker wrote: post #319
rendall wrote: post #316

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> "I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down" I understand this on a visceral level, but I wish more people would look beyond that to the implications for communication on the web. This action by Amazon happens to correspond with what I think is right and just on first iteration, but what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with?

The only principal that protects that kind of group is that we agree with it. It’s not much, but it’s something.

If only there were some principle or value that would somehow... allow us to express opinions even if others - even powerful people, or even the majority of people - disagreed with us. Some kind of inalienable right. Hmm. It is a mystery.
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