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The problem with “do both”: if you give your control group PrEP, then you won’t be able to get data to support the vaccine’s efficacy. A trial requires enough infections in the control group to show the vaccine is better.
You pick a high risk group that either doesn’t have access to prep
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
>It’s so pervasive and creates all kinds of weird dietary and nervous system issues. I am not an expert, but I think it would be amiss to omit the Lyme disease controversy with these statements. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4477530/ Lyme disease has a simple antibiotic treatment. The Lyme serology test has high false-positive rate. There might be many people who believe they have Lyme disease therefor…
This is incorrect. Your link is from 2016. In the last few years several studies have brought to light that persister Lyme is real and very hard to eradicate with standard antibiotics. Even the CDC is starting to change their tune as their website now mentions persister Lyme as a viable theory. An example: https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2019/three-antibiot...
Even people here in Australia passionately declare that they have Lyme disease (without overseas travel). Our ticks don't even carry Lyme disease...
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
>It’s so pervasive and creates all kinds of weird dietary and nervous system issues. I am not an expert, but I think it would be amiss to omit the Lyme disease controversy with these statements. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4477530/ Lyme disease has a simple antibiotic treatment. The Lyme serology test has high false-positive rate. There might be many people who believe they have Lyme disease therefor…
If you’re not an expert why would you link a manuscript to stir up a thread? CLD is real and even if it’s over diagnosed, it still doesn’t take away the many real diagnoses that exist and a vaccine would eliminate its potential permanently. If you are posting in good faith...more recent studies are centered around making the findings in the European strain viable in the American one.
>CLD is real
Well, I believe the right thing to do is to at least mention that these are controversial statements.
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QAF (US) was amazing - got them on DVD, and was the only way I could watch them ~ 15 years ago. For what its worth, PrEP is not without its own costs. Besides the documented side effects, it also seems to rapidly accelerate cellular aging.
I have the DVDs too. It's worth the lower quality just for the music. Some of the most powerful scenes are deeply tied to the nusic for me, dancing at prom, Brian's bowling, the first episode, so many more - the replacement 'music' they hacked together is horrible too... Wow i didn't know the cellular aging part thank you. Do you have anymore info? I'm on it (or was when I could actually be around humans ;( ) The big…
The cellular aging - it's something I discovered recently myself, when it was mentioned in passing during a talk on aging. I did some reading and I think this is it:
* [Brief Report: Differential Effects of Tenofovir, Abacavir, E... : JAIDS Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes](https://journals.lww.com/jaids/Fulltext/2017/01010/Brief_Rep...)
* [Tenofovir disoproxil fumarate induces peripheral neuropathy and alters inflammation and mitochondrial biogenesis in the brains of mice | Scientific Reports](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-53466-x#Sec24)
* [Pharmacogenetic Analysis of the Model‐Based Pharmacokinetics of Five Anti‐HIV Drugs: How Does This Influence the Effect of Aging? - Chen - 2018 - Clinical and Translational Science - Wiley Online Library](https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/cts.1...)
Accelerated cellular aging has been noticed in HIV+ patients for a while, and there is some growing evidence that at least some of it might be due to ART, including the formulations used in PrEP. I'm not aware of a study looking at accelerated aging in HIV -ve people using PrEP.
I suppose the risks are elevated with the daily dose regimen, and Event Driven PrEP (2+1+1) might be safer long term. Of course, Event Driven PrEP recommendations also assume fewer than two sexual encounters per week, so it's not for the more 'social' amongst us.
I'm unfamiliar with the pricing. How much is the out of pocket costs? Does Gilead reimburse the entire copay?
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is incorrect. Your link is from 2016. In the last few years several studies have brought to light that persister Lyme is real and very hard to eradicate with standard antibiotics. Even the CDC is starting to change their tune as their website now mentions persister Lyme as a viable theory. An example: https://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2019/three-antibiot...
Let's let this rest as 'controversial'. 2020: https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)30011-5/fulltex... Even people here in Australia passionately declare that they have Lyme disease (without overseas travel). Our ticks don't even carry Lyme disease...
Almost all those citations are outdated studies from almost 20 years ago and one recent from 2016 where patients _did_ improve with antibiotics according to the data but the abstract concludes they didn't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If they have to ignore recent studies and go back 20 years to "prove" antibiotics don't work then what does that tell us about bias in medicine?
2018: >Conclusions: Using multiple corroborative detection methods, we showed that patients with persistent Lyme disease symptoms may have ongoing spirochetal infection despite antibiotic treatment, similar to findings in non-human primates. The optimal treatment for persistent Borrelia infection remains to be determined. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324539470_Persisten...
2019: >We collected data from an online survey of 200 of our patients, which evaluated the efficacy of dapsone (diaminodiphenyl sulfone, ie, DDS) combined with other antibiotics and agents that disrupt biofilms for the treatment of chronic Lyme disease/post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome (PTLDS). ... Conclusion DDS CT decreased eight major Lyme symptoms severity and improved treatment outcomes among patients with chronic Lyme disease/PTLDS and associated coinfections. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6388746/
2020: > This study, which drew on a sample of over 3500 patients ... Approximately half (53%) of the patients in the study reported some improvement, and more than a third (35%) were “high responders” to antibiotic treatment, underscoring the value of large samples, subgroup analysis, and real-world evidence as standard components of Lyme disease treatment studies. This spectrum of improvement is consistent with reports for most pharmaceuticals due to patient treatment response variation https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9032/8/4/383
They only test for Borrelia Burgdorferi. We know there are several more out there that cause Lyme symptoms. Borrelia
japonica – Discovered 1994
andersonii – Discovered 1995
lusitaniae – Discovered 1997
bissettii – Discovered 1998
spielmanii – Discovered 2006
californiensis – Discovered 2007
mayonii – Discovered 2016
I'm betting we can add the Australian variant to that list in the future.
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That's my understanding as well. The problem, though, is that the virus doesn't completely peter out because it survives in the bats. There is a possibility a mutation makes the virus less lethal, in which case it could cause much more problems when it jumps again from bat to human. Maybe next year, maybe in a hundred years, maybe never. Disclaimer: I'm absolutely no expert. The above is only my best guess.
It probably could also mutate in a way that it would be just as lethal, but with a longer incubation period.
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There is a Netflix documentary called Pandemic about couple that is trying to eradicate flu. They found vaccine that works on all flu viruses but it takes 6 shots to work. That’s not practical at all therefore it’s not on the market yet.
I have a debilitating fear of the flu and would ABSOLUTELY be up for a 6-shot regimen, if it gives me my winters back.
I now have the same for covid, lol - but I'm overweight and 41, high risk as a result, and have two kids under 4 I'd like to see make it to graduation.
I have a constant nasal drip, that I don't think is flu related, I get the vaccine every year, but I do get bronchitis like every other year and it wipes me out for at least 2-4 weeks.
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I assume you are referring to the time the CIA co-opted an immunisation programme as part of the hunt for Bin Laden. I don't think anyone has ever seriously suggested that the CIA has tampered with the vaccines. They merely co-opted the inoculation process in order to gain a biological sample.
It doesn't matter whether they tampered with the vaccine. They destroyed trust in international vaccine Programs and the Health Workers that are administering the vaccines are facing the blowback.
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This potential role of vitamin D is very exciting!
I don't know if you can read the article apart from the abstract, so just in case: It proposes the idea for the mechanism of vitamin D supplementation to better certain conditions in the short term, but worsen health long term, by acting as a immune suppressant similar to other steroids. Here are some excerpts: > "Consequently, if patients with autoimmune disease succeed in killing bacteria associated with their dise…
Because thus vitamin D would be a great solution against autoimmune diseases, among which are a lot of the cases under the umbrella Chronic Lyme Disease (it is supposed that the borreliosis can provoke an autoimmune dysfunction that continues beyond the disappearance of the bacteria).
A lot of cases of chronic fatigue would be treated by vitamin D, which is a huge news.
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#230One of these is for the little known Nipah virus. This virus is really scary. Like the Coronavirus, it jumps to humans from bats. Unlike the Coronavirus, it is extremely lethal. In the last outbreak, in 2018 [1], the case fatality rate was 89%. Fortunately, there were only 19 cases (17 died). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Nipah_virus_outbreak_in_K...
It seems we need to cull a lot of bats.