One of these is for the little known Nipah virus. This virus is really scary. Like the Coronavirus, it jumps to humans from bats. Unlike the Coronavirus, it is extremely lethal. In the last outbreak, in 2018 [1], the case fatality rate was 89%. Fortunately, there were only 19 cases (17 died). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Nipah_virus_outbreak_in_K...
Is my understanding correct that a virus so deadly would quickly peter out because it kills its hosts before it can spread?
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#202Really good news! Hopefully these get approved relatively quickly. I'm most excited about the seasonal flu vaccine. That could be a major game changer.
I can't understand people who wants to get vaccinated yearly for just a flu. Please make me understand. I mean it's just a flu and we have Netflix. As a Moderna shareholder I think that is stupid. As a healthy eater I think that is really stupid. Now I can only think I must be really stupid.
The reason to vaccinate for the flu is to stop the spread of the flu to vulnerable populations. The cost of vaccination is a little arm soreness for a day or two (hardly anything).
The added benefit is that you've decreased your odds of being put out of commission for 7->9 days (if you are being responsible). Current flu vaccines are around 40->70% effective. Not great, but better than nothing.
The reason I'm so excited about the moderna vaccines is that it can drive those efficacy rates much higher. That's because they can delay manufacturing to be far nearer to the outbreak. The key to a highly effective flu vaccine is matching the strains. mRNA vaccination presents a way to do that a lot better because you don't need 7->10 months of lead time to make sure there is enough supply.
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Is my understanding correct that a virus so deadly would quickly peter out because it kills its hosts before it can spread?
Yes. See also: ebola. If a disease is fatal too fast , it cannot spread well.
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#204One of these is for the little known Nipah virus. This virus is really scary. Like the Coronavirus, it jumps to humans from bats. Unlike the Coronavirus, it is extremely lethal. In the last outbreak, in 2018 [1], the case fatality rate was 89%. Fortunately, there were only 19 cases (17 died). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Nipah_virus_outbreak_in_K...
Is my understanding correct that a virus so deadly would quickly peter out because it kills its hosts before it can spread?
It spread pretty well. It doesn't kill you instantly, so you can walk around and spread it before you inevitably die.
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Bacteria is latent. CFS is not not strep throat. Generally body-wide immune dysfunction is present. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19393200/
This potential role of vitamin D is very exciting!
It proposes the idea for the mechanism of vitamin D supplementation to better certain conditions in the short term, but worsen health long term, by acting as a immune suppressant similar to other steroids.
Here are some excerpts:
> "Consequently, if patients with autoimmune disease succeed in killing bacteria associated with their disease state, their symptoms should be expected to escalate, at least in the short-term, as cytokines and endotoxins are generated[28]. Conversely, in cases in which the immune response has been suppressed by supplementation with an immunosuppressant such as the secosteroid 25-D, one would expect to see fewer clinical manifestations of disease in the short-term, yet more advanced disease in the long-term. At a certain point, depending on the clinical symptom or physiological markers of disease, patients supplementing with vitamin D would be expected to approach a "crossover point" when additional reduction of the immune response is eclipsed by the advancing disease (Figure 2). This outcome has been demonstrated in longitudinal studies, with studies on sicker or older patients taking less time to realize the effect."
> "The Iowa Women's Health study showed vitamin D intake seemed to protect against breast cancer in the first five years after it was taken. However, the effect began to reverse between years five and ten and was completely lost after year ten, trending towards an opposing effect[29]. Lappe et al published work, conducted over four years, that seemingly showed vitamin D might lower the incidence of colorectal cancer[30]. In a similar study looking at a larger cohort and over a longer period of time, Rossouw et al found no such effect[31]."
Why can't we have nice things, eh?!
Since, vitamin D is frequently advertised as the cure all supplement, I also want to mention "antagonistic pleiotropy" as something to keep in mind, as conceptual "immunization":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antagonistic_pleiotropy_hypoth...
Edit: OMG. I just realized, it may very well be possible that winter's VD deficiency may be needed for good health to some extent, if the body is indeed more active against lingering pathogens. This may also explain the COVID19 and VD connection, as steroids have been shown beneficial as well, maybe it's the immune suppressant quality of VD, which turns out beneficial!
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damn I have a habit of only reading HN comments and guessing what the article is about
It is slightly odd that the headline doesn't feature HIV more prominently, since this is a press release. PR puffery would call for a headline more like "We cured COVID and now we're going to cure Flu and AIDS (and another thing you've never heard of)." Props for modesty, I guess, but this is a weird instance to suddenly get coy.
Those two factors mean that it is nearly guaranteed to upset a bunch of religious nutjobs.
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#207One of these is for the little known Nipah virus. This virus is really scary. Like the Coronavirus, it jumps to humans from bats. Unlike the Coronavirus, it is extremely lethal. In the last outbreak, in 2018 [1], the case fatality rate was 89%. Fortunately, there were only 19 cases (17 died). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Nipah_virus_outbreak_in_K...
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#208Damn can you imagine? I never imagined that an HIV vaccine would be possible within my lifetime. Kind of reminds me of HepC. An older coworker told me how a friend killed himself back in the day for getting HepC from tainted blood (pretty much a death sentence at that time and it consumed him). But now it’s possible to CURE it and hopefully it’ll be the same for HIV soon. Fuck, science like this is amazing.
Just to be clear, a vaccine doesn't cure a disease. It prevents one from contracting it.
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This misses that many many people get Lyme disease without knowing it (asymptomatic), particularly children, and if treatment it not given early in infection, permanent neurological damage occurs. This is common in north eastern state rural areas and has been getting steadily worse. We are constantly doing tick checks on the kids after one of our friends related that she suffered lifelong issues after being bitten by…
And in turn this misses that chronic lyme has become a catch-all self diagnosis people have for chronic medical problems with no clear cause. There is not really much evidence to believe it is a real thing.