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Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

0xdde wrote: post #71
blisterpeanuts wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who was the police officer, and what weapon was used? The only report of an officer down was erroneously attributed to someone beating him with a fire extinguisher. The latest information is that there was no fire extinguisher, but instead he suffered some kind of delayed reaction to a gas canister (fired by the police).

Where is this latest information? The articles timestamped today or yesterday still quote two officers saying he was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher. I don't see reference to your last point.

LawOfficer.com says the cause of death is not yet known, at least not publicly known.[1] It seems that he died of a "medical condition", and not having his skull crushed as at least one person on Twitter has stated.

1. https://www.lawofficer.com/family-of-fallen-capitol-police-o...

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Post by rayiner »

crooked-v wrote: post #92
brobdingnagians wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Errrhm, all the "protected classes" tend to come from the left wing ideologies. Sure, the right isn't what it used to be with Jeffersonian liberalism and free speech, but that quote could easily be interpreted to be about modern left by simply replacing "Conservatism" with "Liberalism'.

'The right' as a term literally comes from supporters of the nobility and the king, the ultimate representation of someone who is protected but not bound by the law.

They supported the French king against violent revolutionaries who executed him, imposed arbitrary cultural changes such as abandoning the calendar, and undertook a series of mass executions and purges until they were finally brought under control by Napoleon.

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Post by Tenoke »

the_cat_kittles wrote: post #42

im saying this because it seems like such an obvious point but i havent seen it here- why are people who want the government to be replaced by the "free market" allowed to be upset that private companies are silencing them? what is the rationale for squaring this circle

I mostly doubt that without the underlying current system companies will act the same way. In this case, I doubt they'd all have as much of a push to ban the same people at the same time example.

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

the_cat_kittles wrote: post #42

im saying this because it seems like such an obvious point but i havent seen it here- why are people who want the government to be replaced by the "free market" allowed to be upset that private companies are silencing them? what is the rationale for squaring this circle

> why are people who want the government to be replaced by the "free market" allowed to be upset that private companies are silencing them?

Because there isn't a free market, but a regulated market and there is a widespread perception (on both the left and the right) that the regulations are tilted in favor of the establishment and oligarchs, and against normal people, workers, consumers, and taxpayers.

Furthermore when there was protests which were marred by violence in 2020 the platforms were supportive of the protestors and continued to permit them to organize.

> what is the rationale for squaring this circle

If we want a free market, lets have a free market. If we want regulations, lets let those regulations reflect perspectives from both sides of the aisle. A regulated market for me, and a free market for thee, is not acceptable.

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Post by curiousgal »

elsonrodriguez wrote: post #99

As long as Facebook is attempting to care about the spread of misinformation, can they nuke the various Flat Earth groups? I swear those people provide breeding stock for almost every other conspiracy theory on the planet.

They are just appeasing the Democrats before they take control and break them up. Big Tech has had no issue offering services to third world dictatorships but when Americans drink the same koolaid, suddenly it's a pressing issue!

Just to be clear, I am not blaming them, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.

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Post by codingslave »

Sad to see this with the Adam Swartz post both on the front page. We need more powerful people who will voice, not for the proliferation of conspiracies, but for the right to speak ones mind on the internet. Even here on HN any attempt at putting forth the wrong opinion on the election will result in a ban. This will embolden and validate the opinions of Trump supporters. This morning, Angela Merkel voiced her own fears that censorship is going too far

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

the-smug-one wrote: post #116
brobdingnagians wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Errrhm, all the "protected classes" tend to come from the left wing ideologies. Sure, the right isn't what it used to be with Jeffersonian liberalism and free speech, but that quote could easily be interpreted to be about modern left by simply replacing "Conservatism" with "Liberalism'.

What left wing ideologies would that be?

the Frankfurt school and critical theorists probably.

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Post by dd36 »

zucked wrote: post #118
ffggvv wrote: post #113

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yes everyone who disagrees with you is a hypocrite and dumb and it’s impossible they may have actual reasoning behind their thoughts. you’re very empathetic

Not op - but please provide an explanation that counters the argument, then. Seriously, I would really like to understand how to come to terms with two world views that appear to be diametrically opposed within the same movement.

Most of them aren’t in it for ideology but the shared victimhood. They go along with the ideology because most of the donor funding wants the ideology to be Conservative. These people were New Deal Democrats before the civil rights movement.

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

distrill wrote: post #61
tuesdayrain wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this definition, many antifa and BLM rioters are also terrorists. It's interesting how hesitant the media was to describe them that way.

What media? That's exactly how fox news, oan, newsmax and donald trump talk about BLM.

Can you cite an example of Donald Trump or any of those news sources calling BLM a terrorist organization, or an organization that has some terrorists in it? I haven't seen that word used. "Criminal", "thug", "looter", "rioter", yes, but not "terrorist".

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Post by creato »

swiley wrote: post #51
l9k wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Stop The Steal" is nowadays very specifically referring to the conspiracy theories surrounding the US November 2020 presidential election that was started by Trump supporters. Maybe in a few years (months if you're optimist), it will be forgotten (because of these kinds of measure?) and the phrase will be allowed again.

This kind of behavior by facebook is only going to radicalize people and make them extremely suspicious of anyone that disagrees with them. Do you think someone prone to conspiracy theories is going to start listening to people who are actively campaigning for the destruction/deletion of information. We need consensus and half of consensus means listening.

They're already radicalized. We listened to this claim for 2 months, the claim has been aired in court many, many times. We don't need to listen to it any more.
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