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It would be great if things like this could be spearheaded by countries that aren’t in that unfortunate state. I fully expect Hungary to follow if they haven’t already.
This will be used to silence dissent.
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There are some who like to call Nazi death camps 'Polish death camps' because they were located in Nazi occupied Poland. This, of course, is frowned on by Poland. It is seen as a way of blaming Poland for Germany's crimes, while the people who do it play innocent and claim they are merely stating 'true facts' about the locations of the camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/"Polish_death_camp"_controvers...
Note the last part of that article, though[1]: You're also not allowed to refer to camps like Zgoda or Jaworzno - which were labour camps operated by poles on behalf of the communist regime - as 'Polish concentration camps'. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Polish_death_camp%22_contro...
There's literally a common phrase "Poland is the Christ of nations." - Mickiewicz, the chief poet. You can only be the Christ if you're without fault.
edit: this post is getting downvoted :D. I was never good at Polish doublethink, cared too much about facts.
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I understand the change is unwelcome. For us an appeal is just a letter to the public attorney(?), which will either result in them dropping it, or a case, all of which you can do yourself.
Do people in Holland protest when their government tries to shift some bureaucratic burden to the citizens, when it was previously on the professionals paid by the citizens' money? Well, Polish people seemingly do mind. I got a ticket, I'm sure I'm innocent: - old way: police "organizes" the court appointment, I wait - new way: I "organize" the court appointment, police waits The taxes don't change.
edit: Demeanors? is the word I was looking for.
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Do people in Holland protest when their government tries to shift some bureaucratic burden to the citizens, when it was previously on the professionals paid by the citizens' money? Well, Polish people seemingly do mind. I got a ticket, I'm sure I'm innocent: - old way: police "organizes" the court appointment, I wait - new way: I "organize" the court appointment, police waits The taxes don't change.
No, this was not protested IIRC, as it seems appropriate for speeding-tickets, running red lights, biking without light etc. Or Corona-measures for that matter ( which went through parliament ). edit: Demeanors? is the word I was looking for.
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That doesn't make any sense. What is that even supposed to mean? Yes, Polish people have only the free speech that doesn't violate the Polish law. Some people might think that the laws could be more strict or more relaxed, but this is just how the law works.
Calling it free speech when an authoritarian government heavily restricts what can legally be said feels a bit disingenuous Do you know anything about poland's heavy restrictions on speech?? https://notesfrompoland.com/2018/08/21/polands-insult-laws-a...
> Under its provisions, social media services will not be allowed to remove content or block accounts if the content on them does not break Polish law. This is kind of insane. So if I offer a free website- a private company operating as I like- I would be forbidden from removing content from my own website that I don't like because the person who wrote it- again, not a paying customer- wants it to be there. Not only…
Put another way: In the US at least, r/jailbait didn't actually break any laws (well, maybe some individual posts did, but the whole idea of that subreddit was essentially to ogle underage women/children but in a way that was not explicitly illegal). So with something like this law all social media sites would be forced to host the equivalent of r/jailbait.
Freedom of speech is also freedom from compelled speech. This kind of law means the government can compel any private party to speak what they want and punish them for not doing so. This is also demonstrably damaging to the effected party. It costs money to host content. Forcing a business to host content costs them - is poland going to fund this? No. If the polish government has a problem with it then they should ma…
When the freedom of people to speak clashes with the freedom of corporations to not allow that speech, it's better to side with more speech (i.e. the side of the people).
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Put another way: In the US at least, r/jailbait didn't actually break any laws (well, maybe some individual posts did, but the whole idea of that subreddit was essentially to ogle underage women/children but in a way that was not explicitly illegal). So with something like this law all social media sites would be forced to host the equivalent of r/jailbait.
I don't see that as a good counter example. That sort of content should be illegal anyway.
This will continue happening around the world. Who knew - sovereign states don’t want American megacorporations deciding what ideas are appropriate? Prepare for massive Balkanization of the Internet.
This is a dishonest line. The internet is federated, they don't have to use websites created by American megacorporations.
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This is a dishonest line. The internet is federated, they don't have to use websites created by American megacorporations.
What is a lie? I think it’s highly unlikely that Facebook and Twitter will be used worldwide in say, 2040. They had first mover advantage, but as it becomes easier to create a social network and the law catches up, I’d expect to see a lot of local/regional alternatives. If the EU said tomorrow, in 1 year we are banning Facebook and launching our own version, what can Facebook do about it?
Whichever costs less for them.