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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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If you're used to GNOME, might I suggesting a fork? elementary OS has thumbnails for years: https://imgur.com/a/7JlJCnN

Is that a file picker, or just the file manager?

file manager

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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post #134

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Or Cinnamon: https://projects.linuxmint.com/cinnamon/ I've been running Cinnamon on a few machines for years, and it mostly works fine, which for a Linux desktop is high praise. The file picker has thumbnails (although it only has a list view, so they're ant-size). I haven't used MATE. My understanding is that MATE started life as Gnome 2, whereas Cinnamon started life as Gnome 3 reskinned to look like Gnome 2. Both…

My desktop user experience with Mint Cinnamon was as close to delightful as I've ever had on Linux. All the GUI stuff worked without me having to fiddle around in the terminal like a "hacker", the UX was generally high-quality, and the default theming was pretty and consistent. My overall impression was that it was definitely and surprisingly usable for non-technical people like my mom, grandma, etc. who don't use th…

> All the GUI stuff worked without me having to fiddle around in the terminal like a "hacker"

This was also my experience.

The only customisation i've done is:

1. Moving the panel, depending on what my feelings about proper panel placement are at the time.

2. Removing all the default shortcuts, because they collide with IntelliJ and/or are useless, and defining a few of my own

3. Setting up custom compose key sequences

Removing the shortcuts was done in the UI, but i really wish i could do it in a config file instead, because it's a pain to spend ten minutes clicking around. I had to hit the command line to set up compose keys, although i think this is an X problem, not a Cinnamon problem.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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post #581

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Recursive search instead of type-ahead search within one directory in the file picker is criminally terrible. I don't think there is any implementation of a file picker that behaves like this (other than Gtk's).

The lack of typeahead in GtkFileChooser is my biggest annoyance that I've ever come across. Ever since I started using computers nearly 25 years ago I used typeahead to navigate through directories and I can't imagine doing it otherwise. The idea of removing typeahead is anti-human to me, I couldn't adapt even though I really tried to.

Yeah, the first thing I do after installing Linux has always been to replace nautilus with something else.

Nautilus is pretty, and for the most part fairly nice. But lacking typeahead just makes it unusable.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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>the existing convention It is the existing convention, the Mac Finder convention. And yes, it's effectively the same as cut and paste.

> It is the existing convention, the Mac Finder convention. I think the point is this doesn't match the convention in the rest of the macOS. A convention of one is a poor convention!

If you mean cut text and so on, it doesn't match because they're not the same thing. When editing a text document, if you cut some part, it actually goes away. If you saved the document at that point, that selection would be gone.

On files, if you cut a file on Windows for example, nothing happens. Until you paste, no operation is done. So it's not the same thing, and I think the way Finder handles it makes more sense.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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post #436

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There's a quote that I think of in situations like this: "Be the change you want to see in the world" - ghandi That said, you can't do that with windows or macosx. Now capitalism works, so apple and microsoft apply the money they make to hard/unsexy things like sleep-wake bug fixes and APIs and sane defaults. But they also bake advertising into their codebase and leech data home to the mothership and prevent you from…

You can contribute all you want but it's not going to be enough to stop Pottering or RedHat from hijacking the project and breaking everything. I used to contribute but these days what's the point?

For more information on "Pottering", a random search produced this:

https://slated.org/the_poetterisation_of_gnu_linux

The more you know.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#597
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There's more serious reasons this file picker is broken. Here's a trivial to reproduce and obvious issue that's been there for several years now: 1. Open a directory that loads slowly (e.g. one with thousands of files on a smb3 mount) 2. While the list is loading, select a file (but do not open it) 3. Wait for the whole list to load Once the list finishes loading, the file on the very top of the list gets automatical…

Even worse is when you know the exact file name that you want to open, and the interface fights against you writing it! For example I want to open /tmp/a.png, but there's thousands of files on /tmp and the cursor disappears while "loading" them, and and some characters of the file name are lost, or typed on different parts of the interface.

In an older version there was autocompletion for typing.

You could type /tmp/a. and it would autocomplete it to /tmp/a.png

It is a good idea, but I type too fast. So I would write /tmp/a.png and then the autocompletion triggered and replace it with /tmp/a.pngpng

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#598

Gnome uses Gtk; Gtk is the Gimp Toolkit. It was created for an image editing program. In a way funny that their file picker is missing such an feature one would expect in an image editing program these days. (From scrolling offer the discussion I can in parts see the architectural constraints they have and can image they have other priorities ...)

If you notice the dependcies: https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gimp/ GIMP still runs GTK 2. The version from ~10 years ago.

They're actually well on their way to switch to GTK3. I guess it takes a while.

https://www.gimp.org/news/2020/11/06/gimp-2-99-2-released/

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#599

Gnome uses Gtk; Gtk is the Gimp Toolkit. It was created for an image editing program. In a way funny that their file picker is missing such an feature one would expect in an image editing program these days. (From scrolling offer the discussion I can in parts see the architectural constraints they have and can image they have other priorities ...)

If you notice the dependcies: https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gimp/ GIMP still runs GTK 2. The version from ~10 years ago.

GIMP is also one of the most atrocious UX I've come across

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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post #583

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Yes, and Gnome is in part responsible for a lot of "desktop" issues with linux. Distros must switch to KDE by default to help eliminate part of this stigma. KDE is so amazingly good that there is no excuse to keep using Gnome.

I was happy KDE user for very long time - first 3.x, then 4 (even with all those glitches and bugs at the very beginning). Then I had 7-8 years break off Linux and last year decided to install it on my new desktop machine. Went with Plasma first - did not go well. I simply cannot get comfortable with it and general look and feel is not working for me (I prefer defaults and I avoid much tweaking and any 3rd party cust…

3.x/4.x was the golden age for KDE. I never felt home with Plasma.
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