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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by efreak »

Evidlo wrote: post #284
alpaca128 wrote: post #119

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For me this is really annoying as well, together with the stupid text input fields that may display a blinking cursor even when they're not focused. And Firefox has this weird issue that now and then a newly opened tab doesn't focus the address bar, forcing me to use the mouse to select it. And I still don't get this trend in some newer software to make tab switching via Ctrl-[Shift]-Tab feel like the lottery instead…

ctrl+pageup/pagedown switches to the next/previous tab in Firefox and Chrome and also works on Windows.

If you have to use Firefox on shared computers occasionally, it may be worthwhile changing your habit to use ctrl+pgup/dn instead of ctrl+tab; ctrl+tab defaults to switching in order of most recently used tabs these days, while ctrl+pgup/dn stays with current tab order.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by pseudalopex »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #171
carlosrg wrote: post #169

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>the existing convention It is the existing convention, the Mac Finder convention. And yes, it's effectively the same as cut and paste.

Do you not think that it's terrible UX, to have cmd+x followed by cmd+v for cut and paste in some places and cmd+c followed by option+cmd+v for cut and paste in others?

I think it's terrible UX for cut to mean different things in Explorer and Word.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by hda2 »

Not providing a standard view in their file picker is only one problem in a looong list of GTK/GNOME inadequacies.

Try not having any way to set up or interact with system tray icons in a toolkit that purports to be a "cross-platform GUI toolket". It gets better when you learn that system tray support was only removed recently by GTK developers because GNOME doesn't have one anymore. The worst part of this is that even if I submitted a patch that implements system tray support, they would just reject it. I know this because I asked them.

These days, GTK and GNOME seem to be designed only for gnome developers and no one else. All 5 or 6 of them.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by pseudalopex »

heavyset_go wrote: post #366
young_unixer wrote: post #293

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I find KDE to be pretty ugly. For instance, margins and paddings seem to be all over the place [1]. At least Gnome gets that part right. [1] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Notifications

If you don't like the defaults, there are thousands of 3rd party themes that are directly listed and installable from KDE's theme preference pane.

Do any of them solve the problem?

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by m463 »

albertzeyer wrote: post #16

You will find lots of such examples of a feature which you personally find very important and wonder why such a simple thing is not supported yet. I guess everyone has such examples. And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows. For me personally, I wonder why mouse wheel/scroll acceleration is still not implemented. I implemented it a while ago for Xorg, which is outdated now, and also the maintainer w…

There's a quote that I think of in situations like this:

"Be the change you want to see in the world" - ghandi

That said, you can't do that with windows or macosx.

Now capitalism works, so apple and microsoft apply the money they make to hard/unsexy things like sleep-wake bug fixes and APIs and sane defaults.

But they also bake advertising into their codebase and leech data home to the mothership and prevent you from running all the programs you'd like.

So look at linux as an opportunity.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Technically »

albertzeyer wrote: post #16

You will find lots of such examples of a feature which you personally find very important and wonder why such a simple thing is not supported yet. I guess everyone has such examples. And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows. For me personally, I wonder why mouse wheel/scroll acceleration is still not implemented. I implemented it a while ago for Xorg, which is outdated now, and also the maintainer w…

Why would you gripe that a person uses your software but cares too much?

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Kalq »

jdright wrote: post #313
JeremyNT wrote: post #280

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> KDE is so amazingly good that there is no excuse to keep using Gnome. I have nothing against KDE, but come on. Many of us really do prefer GNOME despite its perceived deficiencies. This is just a matter of personal preference.

Nothing against options, but having distros with a default on Gnome just seems wrong, defaults are supposed to be good and complete.

Wish somebody would tell that to the Emacs maintainers.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by yyyk »

spideymans wrote: post #296
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #161

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That's not cut-and-paste. That's copy and some weird modified paste that, as far as I'm aware, doesn't exist anywhere else. Why completely break the existing convention?

>Why completely break the existing convention? Because cutting-and-pasting is a destructive action that can lead to data loss. Under the conventional implementation of cut-and-paste, it's easy for a user to inadvertently cut-and-paste a file, when they meant to copy-and-paste said file, either through a misclick or, by hitting the wrong keyboard combination. This is because: 1. The menu option for cut is right above…

>Thinking about this design choice, I now wonder how many times I've had files mysteriously go missing on Windows and other operating systems simply because I used CTRL+X when I meant to use CTRL+C

Zero. If one CTRL+Xs accidentally, Windows and most Linux Desktop pickers change the highlight colour before the copy. At worst you can CTRL+Z it after or copy it back. It's not a 'destructive' operation since you always have one copy of the file.

It's a typical case of Apple deciding users are stupid and therefore should be limited, combined with the typical 'just everything Apple does' syndrome.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by dleslie »

type0 wrote: post #307
bsdubernerd wrote: post #122

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Not really. This is not the first or the last one fixing horrible behavior in the default file picker. Most of the time there's a deliberate reason the picker was designed this way, and the GNOME team won't accept your patch. I personally stopped contributing to GTK very late in the GTK 2 series with very similar problems, and stopped using GTK in my projects since GTK 3. GTK used to be my favorite toolkit back in th…

I saddens me that GNOME and GTK are so hostile to new or inexperienced contributors, most of the time the development happens in a GNOME/GTK Cabal; I heard about but couldn't believe it until I saw their responces myself. I really is worse than that and puts a stain on the whole Linux open source movement (if you can even call it that).

They're hostile to users who post bugs! It's an absolutely toxic developer community who rejects any reflection upon the quality of their product that could somehow indicate that there exists problems with their design vision.

It doesn't matter that they've made the UI harder to use for those with ability concerns, or that their market share is dwindling, or that they've steadily lost developers for most of a decade.

Everyone should give up and move on; I use MATE and am happy, others like Plasma and Xfce. There's plenty of vastly superior DEs with healthier developer attitudes.

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