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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by input_sh »

worik wrote: post #181
albertzeyer wrote: post #16

You will find lots of such examples of a feature which you personally find very important and wonder why such a simple thing is not supported yet. I guess everyone has such examples. And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows. For me personally, I wonder why mouse wheel/scroll acceleration is still not implemented. I implemented it a while ago for Xorg, which is outdated now, and also the maintainer w…

This, lack of thumbnails, has annoyed me too, for years.

If you're used to GNOME, might I suggesting a fork? elementary OS has thumbnails for years: https://imgur.com/a/7JlJCnN

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by scaramanga »

stretchcat wrote: post #362
cycloptic wrote: post #347

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I would advise holding off judgement on specific individuals unless you have worked with them closely and you have a deep understanding of why certain decisions were made. Again, if you are a developer and you disagree with someone's choices, you are free to take it in your own direction. You do not have to work on anybody else's stuff if you don't want.

> I would advise holding off judgement on specific individuals unless you have worked with them closely and you have a deep understanding of why certain decisions were made. Is this advice meant to be applied against all people, or just other developers? I certainly wouldn't apply this standard to RIAA lawyers suing kids. I judge them to be worms even though I never worked with them. And don't even get me started on…

> Is this advice meant to be applied against all people, or just other developers? I certainly wouldn't apply this standard to RIAA lawyers suing kids. I judge them to be worms even though I never worked with them. And don't even get me started on politicians

These developers do not wield power over anyone and they are not filing lawsuits. They are developing code, either as their job, or as volunteers. And in either case, contributing their work as open source.

It might help to take a little perspective before publicly passing judgement on _individuals_ and what you imagine their intentions to be rather than merely judging the merit of their contributions. Those are completely different things.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by aidenn0 »

danmur wrote: post #397
jdright wrote: post #156

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Yes, and Gnome is in part responsible for a lot of "desktop" issues with linux. Distros must switch to KDE by default to help eliminate part of this stigma. KDE is so amazingly good that there is no excuse to keep using Gnome.

I think that's very much personal preference. I tried KDE a few months ago and I couldn't stick with it; it is slower than Gnome in a lot of ways, it's (to my eyes) much more cluttered, and has lags at annoying places. For example, I tend to hit the windows key and start typing to launch things, but under KDE there's enough lag before the menu opens that it doesn't catch my first few keypresses.

I'm on a 3 year old laptop, and I tried several times to get a keystroke to be dropped after I hit the windows key and I couldn't get it to happen.

I use windows-key and start typing to launch things all the time, and after reading your comment at first I thought I might have developed a habit to pause, but nope. I wonder what the difference is.

My biggest KDE gripe is that popups from the system-tray disappear if you move the cursor outside of them. Maybe pro gamers can manage to keep the cursor in every time, but for me I often take 2 or 3 tries to click on something.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by silon42 »

oefrha wrote: post #518
eitland wrote: post #472

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> And you will also find such examples for MacOSX or Windows. If anyone wonders, here are three from Mac last I used it: - fn took the place of ctrl on the laptop (but not the full keyboard). Unlike on Dell and Lenovo who also has this problem it could not be remapped neither at boot nor in the OS. - CMD - tab forced me to think ahead of time if I want to change to the last application or the last window of the same…

> CMD - tab forced me to think ahead of time if I want to change to the last application or the last window of the same application. I.e. switching between two Safari instances takes a different key combination than switching between Safari and IntelliJ. That’s a feature, not a bug. I personally hate having to tab through a million browser windows to find the application I need, or having to tab through unrelated app…

It's not a feature for anyone used to standard alt+tab (and ctrl+tab). Often I wish switching between tabs was on first level too.

I don't appreciate the Mac/Gnome way.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by wander_homer »

db48x wrote: post #537
wander_homer wrote: post #533

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And what about the servers you're not in control over, like web services which expect you to submit pdfs, videos or pictures like a resume, exercises and their solutions, scientific papers, a picture for printing...?

I can count the number of times I've used anything like that on the fingers of one hand.

And our university staff and students have to upload numerous files per week in that way and since you claimed they're doing it wrong I'd like to hear your alternative to that.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by aidenn0 »

samatman wrote: post #360
ibly31 wrote: post #352

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How does "focus follows mouse" work? If I'm understanding; your desktop is a collection of various sizes windows, maybe overlapping and stacking. If your mouse goes off the side of the one you're focusing, it will auto focus the one you're now hovering over. Won't this lead to accidents where you'll have a larger window suddenly gain focus, with no way to see the old one and re-focus it? Seems easy to make a mistake.…

Nope, what you're describing is a mistake in focus-follows-mouse, one which has been made more than once. In real, XWin-style focus-follows-mouse, the window you mouse over gets the focus, but , isn't pulled to the front. If you click, it gets the front and the focus. I use Moom, a semi-tile snap-style window wrangler, and a widescreen with three panels. What I want to do is just slide the cursor over and start typin…

I actually have it set to not raise even on click; I often want to click just one thing in a window that is behind other windows. Moving a window brings it to front and I bind windows-click-drag to move a window. That lets me raise any window I like.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by aidenn0 »

input_sh wrote: post #541
worik wrote: post #181

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This, lack of thumbnails, has annoyed me too, for years.

If you're used to GNOME, might I suggesting a fork? elementary OS has thumbnails for years: https://imgur.com/a/7JlJCnN

Is that a file picker, or just the file manager?

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by stelf »

This whole story points to one obvious yet very conveniently ignored fact about free software and their UIs in particular - implemented is whatever is convenient to be written and whatever the author thought would be okay, and not to the user... because, well, because it comes without any warranty and this is a great excuse to deliver only what oneself (the primary dev) needs and not what the potential users would need.

Occasionally the two (needs) overlap and then great piece of feee software is born...

And because there is no warranty and typically the top devs are also (sorry) somewhat narcissistic - they would seldom enquire end users about the perceived usability of UIs.

Take arbitrary open source appliance targeted at end-users and you can easily argue that it’s somewhat broken from usability pont of view.

Sad but it is what free software is.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by scotty79 »

Gnome seemed always vary bad to me. Missing a lot of convenient features. I used KDE instead which had all the features I expected plus some more that Windows didn't have yet but totally should have.

I was always wondering why Gnome is so weird and broken. Why does it exist? Who uses it? I found out when I got my hands on first Macbook in my life. While KDE mirrors Windows, Gnome mirrored some version of MacOS. Using MacOS was as horrible for me as using Gnome. A lot of basic features that I took for granted in Windows and KDE were missing or hidden so weirdly that I couldn't find them without googling. And I had to google each time I needed them because placement was so weird that my brain just refused to remember something this stupid. And yet some people used Macs, liked Macs, adjusted their daily routines to work with something that for me was missing basic functionality. And praising it! "Of course! That's how it works! That's what the plunger is for! That's completely intuitive!"

M1 chip might be all the rage but I refuse to touch Mac again till their os gets decent free window manager and file manager as alternative. Same way I'm not touching Gnome.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Ndymium »

buckminster wrote: post #110
ht85 wrote: post #65

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Let's do another... Open any directory with 3+ items. As first item is highlighted, quickly hit , , . The 3rd item opens... There is a lag when hitting and the last is processed out of order :/

This is bad but it's not unusual. There are similar issues in Firefox and Windows. Nobody gets UI asynchrony right. There are race conditions in everything. It's particularly noticeable with a slow computer.

LibreOffice had (has?) a similar strange race condition when typing. When the computer was acting slow and LibreOffice Writer was lagging, the Finnish layout's characters äöå would jump to the front of the typing queue somehow. So if I typed "menkäämme", I might get "äämenkmme" when LibreOffice finally renders the typed text. I don't know if it still occurs but it was really annoying and I always wondered how on earth it could happen.
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