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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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My personal opinion is that KDE is less polished, more bloated (in terms of features and options), and slower than GNOME.

Did you try it recently? That was also the stigma of KDE 4.x. 5 is snappy and bloated is probably the wrong word to featureful. I just can't stand gnome exactly due to the opposite: bare bones, missing features, lack of integration and mainly lack of standardized ux.

Add that Gnome it's painful slow and uses more resources that KDE.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#532
I see a lot of people recommending KDE in the comments. While I use KDE it also has big issues in its file picker. Most notably, when a save dialog is open it looks like the filename is focused and selected but if you start typing it actually does a search rather than editing the file name. I don't know if Gnome also has this issue, but it is quite annoying.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#533
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Well, for one using a file picker doesn't imply mouse usage and secondly, how would you do something like uploading a pdf or picture in your web browser?

I don't do that in my web browser. Instead I type a command in a shell that adds the file to a git repository, commits it, and syncs the repository with my web server.

And what about the servers you're not in control over, like web services which expect you to submit pdfs, videos or pictures like a resume, exercises and their solutions, scientific papers, a picture for printing...?

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#534
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Recursive search instead of type-ahead search within one directory in the file picker is criminally terrible. I don't think there is any implementation of a file picker that behaves like this (other than Gtk's).

Is this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/2366 ? It really bothers me as well.

I use Linux, macOS, and Windows on a regular basis. I use mostly default settings, only a couple changes. Over time my settings move closer and closer to defaults. I tell people to upgrade their OS (with a couple exceptions). I was on-board with GNOME 3 when it came out (I was an Arch user at the time, but I’m in remission now).

The GTK file chooser dialog is easily the most garbage piece of fucking shit. Honestly, sometimes, if I want to post something online I just copy the file to my Mac first just to avoid dealing with the fucking piece of shit GTK file chooser. If I need to sort through a bunch of files, easier to run Samba and sort through them on my Mac, because Nautilus was scooped out of the same fucking pile of shit than the GTK file chooser was scooped from.

As far as I can tell, the last time that browsing files on macOS really changed was 2007, when 10.5 came out and had Quick Look. Since then, browsing files on Linux has somehow gotten worse. Do you know what it’s like on macOS? Every once in a while, Apple quietly adds support for previewing a couple more formats.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#535
I've become a fan of terminal, I use the i3 tiling window manager. Thumbnails is one of the few remaining reasons why I occasionally launch Thunar file manager. Whenever I have a messy folder like Downloads, having thumbnails at a glance makes it easier to spot patterns in it and decide where to put files. Thumbnails are one of the best features of graphical interfaces.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#536
post #218

Note that showing the thumbnails would likely be simple enough. The whole desktop system needs a system for generating and maintaining those thumbnails too. Those systems are always complex and messy (remember thumbs.db?) A dialog that opens every file in the directory to read the image and show it, won’t be very popular. So implementing this feature isn’t a change to a dialog but an implementation of something akin…

Nautilus does already have such a cache though. But there is little to no code sharing between nautilus and the gtk file picker, which I think is the actual problem here.

That the file save dialog isn't based on the explorer tool is precisely why a windows file save dialog has e.g. thumbnails "for free" while the gtk file picker doesn't.

It very clearly explains why you want to choose to base every file listing tool on the single file navigation tool. Any effort that goes into one is reflected in the other. If that means a surprising UX at times - that's probably worth it.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#537
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I don't do that in my web browser. Instead I type a command in a shell that adds the file to a git repository, commits it, and syncs the repository with my web server.

And what about the servers you're not in control over, like web services which expect you to submit pdfs, videos or pictures like a resume, exercises and their solutions, scientific papers, a picture for printing...?

I can count the number of times I've used anything like that on the fingers of one hand.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#538

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Yes, and Gnome is in part responsible for a lot of "desktop" issues with linux. Distros must switch to KDE by default to help eliminate part of this stigma. KDE is so amazingly good that there is no excuse to keep using Gnome.

I disliked KDE 3 & 4, however KDE 5 is great. Plasma Desktop is impressive and pleasant to use.

In the early-2000s like many other people I was attracted to the Crystal[1] theme/icon pack, but it did not take long for it to start looking tacky to me. I feel like KDE never really abandoned this kind of look-and-feel until Plasma was released, which is very clean and pleasant. It has discarded cartoon-ish icons and has sharper lines and colours which are nicer to look at. I am a big fan!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everaldo_Coelho#Crystal

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#539
post #36

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At least enough people care that its become a meme in some tech communities. https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/File_Picker_meme

Yes, and Gnome is in part responsible for a lot of "desktop" issues with linux. Distros must switch to KDE by default to help eliminate part of this stigma. KDE is so amazingly good that there is no excuse to keep using Gnome.

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#540

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Picking directories has been pretty broken forever as well. Say you start in ~/Downloads/foo and want to store the file in ~/Downloads, then navigating up will have "foo" selected, with usually no blank space to un-select (so you'd need to do ctrl+click or something to that tune); clicking "Save" (or whatever) will then descend into that directory instead of saving, so just using the mouse, or not using any shortcuts…

Window's UI is not really an upgrade though. All the fake roots (why the heck is the Desktop the root) and the forced broken navigation therein, the removal of up so you have to navigate everything like webpages, treating some folders like databases and others with duplicate names like standard folders, hiding extensions, and the 'My Computer' naming madness. KDE is the best desktop experience available.

For Linux, I agree.
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