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Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by jhardy54 »

EGreg wrote: post #64
oehtXRwMkIs wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking WhatsApp but maybe you're right

Okay I’ll bite Just posted our free open source platform we were working on for 10 years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25717417

> MAGA folks looking for platforms for their "free speech".

This is not a target demographic you should strive for.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by amelius »

cpach wrote: post #26
tomcam wrote: post #18

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Which ones should be eliminated?

Evolution will take care of that. A lot of them will simply fizzle out.

Sadly, evolution seems to not converge to a single chat standard.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by oftheoaks »

frob wrote: post #28

This site doesn't render properly on mobile. Many of the blocks flow off the screen to the left and right. I was intrigued, but like many projects, the first impression I got was of sloppy development unable to even test one of the most common ways to view their site and it drove me away.

Thanks for letting us know, I filed a bug: https://github.com/cabal-club/cabal-club.github.io/issues/11

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by amelius »

jlkuester7 wrote: post #49
Yoric wrote: post #20

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I should add that Matrix p2p has been demonstrated. My understanding is that it's not ready for prime time just yet, but it works.

Wait, what? Matrix is working on p2p protocols?

Couldn't the entire P2P part be abstracted away from it, so a chat client could work with any P2P technology in principle?

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by OkGoDoIt »

benbristow wrote: post #7

Looks nice. Sorely lacking image uploads though, just seems like a decentralized IRC that looks like Slack at the minute.

According to the FAQ there is a prototype implementation of it in one of the clients, and apparently once that stabilizes they will standardize it on other clients. Looks like it’s a work in progress, not an oversight

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by EGreg »

oehtXRwMkIs wrote: post #70
EGreg wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay I’ll bite Just posted our free open source platform we were working on for 10 years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25717417

Sorry man not interested in non-federated solutions.

Not sure what you mean by non-federated... Qbix can support many protocols including foaf, matrix, scuttlebutt, DID and so on. You can make it as federated as you wish.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by lukevp »

dgellow wrote: post #47
frob wrote: post #28

This site doesn't render properly on mobile. Many of the blocks flow off the screen to the left and right. I was intrigued, but like many projects, the first impression I got was of sloppy development unable to even test one of the most common ways to view their site and it drove me away.

Which browser? Looks fine for me using latest Edge.

Do you use edge on mobile? I haven’t heard of anyone using that before, so was curious if you missed the mobile part of the post or if you do use it mobile.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Post by EGreg »

jhardy54 wrote: post #71
EGreg wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay I’ll bite Just posted our free open source platform we were working on for 10 years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25717417

> MAGA folks looking for platforms for their "free speech". This is not a target demographic you should strive for.

I am not really a big fan of end-to-end encryption for solving society’s main communication problems, I think people (pseudonymous or not) should be accountable for their speech. But I do believe in empowering people and uniting communities. If you want to run your own social network out of your own servers, you should be able to. The fact that the software to power user friendly communication platforms is scarce is a big problem. They extract rents. They cut you off if they don’t like what you have to say. And worst of all, they concentrate power in the hands of a few people regarding what decisions are to be made. That is actually the source of all this arguing.

If you’re arguing whether we should have Title I or Title II, or whether we should use Facebook or Google, Microsoft or Amazon, Democrat and Republican, you’ve already lost. Open source collaboration beats closed source competition every time in the end. Everyone can host their own network and label the map however they want, and so on. No fighting over flags or one size fits all policies!

In the 19th century there was a word for this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

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