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Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Interesting project. How does it compare to Briar https://briarproject.org/ ?

Briar only works on Android so it's inherently flawed. Of course, Cabal being written in javascript is also a major minus. As an oldschool Unix hacker, I don't really get the node.js fixation for command line tools. It's a certainty that they'll never be used by a significant chunk of knowledgeable, expert Unix users that want nothing to do with node. Finally, there is no protocol documentation anywhere that I can se…

No knowledgeable, expert Unix user I know brushes a Node program aside just because it is Node.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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post #3

Have there been any breakthroughs recently? Or just sharing to share?

There has been a number of HN submissions about decentralization and Internet freedom today, probably as a reaction to the deplatforming of Parler: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25706993

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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post #19

Just the place to plan a second attack on the Capitol.

open source software at this point is just a pawn for being misused by extremists.

someone once said 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions' or something like that.

anyway, i'll get some friends on there and organise a a̶t̶t̶a̶c̶k̶ party.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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post #19

Just the place to plan a second attack on the Capitol.

open source software at this point is just a pawn for being misused by extremists. someone once said 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions' or something like that. anyway, i'll get some friends on there and organise a a̶t̶t̶a̶c̶k̶ party.

> open source software at this point is just a pawn for being misused by extremists.

This comment makes me question if you know what open source software is.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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post #18
post #9

I like the idea but I think there's probably a few too many chat apps going around already as well.

Which ones should be eliminated?

Evolution will take care of that. A lot of them will simply fizzle out.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably not a coincidence that this gets posted with no context the day that Parler gets kicked off AWS. I presume it's someone trying to offer Cabal as a Parler alternative.

My thoughts exactly, the Donald Chumps will take this up. Good news: Massive influx of users. Bad news: It's all American Fascists looking to hold hands. Saving grace is most are probably too stupid to read hacker news.

> Saving grace is most are probably too stupid to read hacker news.

I wouldn’t make this assumption. I have seen plenty of modern conservative opinion around here, and some of it really does align with ideas of white male supremacy and support for fascist authoritarian leadership. It’s easier to find on “new” on posts that aren’t strictly technology related. They are definitely here.

Of course, people are entitled to their opinions. 99.9% of normal liberal or conservative Americans aren’t going to get violent or take part in an insurrection. Nothing wrong with a having and expressing opinions.

But to me, the concern here isn’t even what happened a few days ago at the Capitol. My concern is the mass radicalization of the right wing of politics, and therefore people, in America. This radicalization is mainstream because the media outlets pushing the ideas are themselves mainstream, more mainstream than you think.

E.g. my family members, who are not deep down anything truly radical like the Q rabbit hole, but still believe it’s okay for Trump to be “joking” about 12 more years, running contrary to elementary school civics lessons that were supposed to be universal common ground. They got these ideas from America’s number one cable news channel, not some obscure Internet forum.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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This site doesn't render properly on mobile. Many of the blocks flow off the screen to the left and right.

I was intrigued, but like many projects, the first impression I got was of sloppy development unable to even test one of the most common ways to view their site and it drove me away.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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post #19

Just the place to plan a second attack on the Capitol.

Cool, we've jumped right into "if you want to be independent from FaceAppAmaGooMicroTwitBookTube, it's just because you're a right-wing fascist plotting an attack." Way to go everyone.

Re: Cabal: A peer-to-peer, off-grid, community-first, hackable chat platform

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post #29
post #19

Just the place to plan a second attack on the Capitol.

Cool, we've jumped right into "if you want to be independent from FaceAppAmaGooMicroTwitBookTube, it's just because you're a right-wing fascist plotting an attack." Way to go everyone.

It kind of is, even if it is not intended to be. Here’s how it works.

Deplatforming by the major social platforms is actually a way for them to create a moat. The field is now salted with toxic lunatics looking for a platform. Anyone who tries to stand up another social will instantly be inundated by them, and their presence will drive everyone else away and back into the arms of the incumbents.

Social is now like a zombie flick. There are walled gardens where it is safe, but outside stalk the walking dead. Trying to build another shelter is an exercise in repelling the undead long enough to get some walls up.

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