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Post by Triv888 »

almost_usual wrote: post #36
tester756 wrote: post #19

I considered trying to get visa to USA and work there, but honestly last year makes me really worried about living there is it safe to live there?

>Is it safe to live there? As someone who has lived here my entire life I'm not sure how the next month is going to unfold. Historically though the United States has crime issues, a few of the most dangerous cities in the world (not in a war zone) are in the US (St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate https://apnews.com/article/homicide-st-louis-coronavirus-pan...

Surprisingly, Orlando is apparently also one of the most violent city in the US.

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Post by Triv888 »

tester756 wrote: post #19

I considered trying to get visa to USA and work there, but honestly last year makes me really worried about living there is it safe to live there?

It is turning into a police state and I think that the crime rates have never been lower.

"In the long term, violent crime in the United States has been in decline since colonial times."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

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Post by feralimal »

neogodless wrote: post #175
feralimal wrote: post #166

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To me, it was always the case. I think TV was set up to be the most powerful propaganda delivery mechanism. That's pretty clear, when you look at how the BBC was created. But - for more info, so that you can confirm this is explicitly the case, you should look up 'Operation Mockingbird'. Or the way that the CIA sponsored arts and culture. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-... The media being…

> the CIA's secret campaign to turn American art into anti-Soviet cultural propaganda This is perfectly credible. But extrapolating that example of government influence over culture to the premise "media is 100% under the control and direction of the government" or, furthermore, a hidden or shadow government... is stretching well beyond a logical conclusion. (It would have to be a shadow government, because mainstrea…

What would you think if I said to you that there is a conspiracy so broad and deeply embedded that a small group is able to take a set co-ordinated actions, across the planet, with every country taking part that constrain individuals to their houses and restrict their movements and interactions, and to force individuals possibly at gunpoint to take injections that they object to? And that governments would be able to do so, with most cheering them on?

Is that a conspiracy? If I had said that to you last year, you would have called me mad.

Contrast that, with what would happen if you tried to prevent just one individual coming near you, even if they had provably caused you harm. You would need to go to court, prove your case, get a restraining order, etc. And you would never be able to exclude them from work, enforce a passport, mandate good citizen score for loans and travel!! Apparently none of the legal stuff is applicable if the whole world is being locked down. No one needs to go on the record to state why all this is required.

This is where we are at! Do you really want to trust CNN? lol

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Post by feralimal »

Guvante wrote: post #204
feralimal wrote: post #143

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Think about it. If people have the wrong information, that means that they cannot respond meaningfully. If you are swimming in a world of lies, how will you give the correct answer? UPDATE/EDIT And, in other conspiracy news, I am unable to reply to comments below. "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." This will probably prevent me from replying for a few hours (last time it was 3 hours). Understandably…

You got caught by the spam filter dude. No conspiracy here.

Its not a spam filter.

I am not posting too fast in trying to reply to responses.

The reason I am blocked is because my opinions are not popular and they are downvoted.

This is the issue: HN is an echo chamber. Those who can downvote (those with 500+ upvotes) can downvote others and maintain the echo chamber. A function of the design is to take away the right of reply from those whose opinion they do not like.

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Post by dgellow »

8note wrote: post #64
dgellow wrote: post #40

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That's what some of the protesters were screaming. It started trending when people pointed this fact, not as a support for it, but because people were freaking out and started to document/discuss it.

Do you think Twitter's algorithm is smart enough to only signal boost the documentation? Or will it mix the two together?

I don't think it's smart enough. But I also personally don't really care what the Twitter algorithm boost or not.

Twitter trending topics are a terrible feature IMHO, you never know what the context is behind a keyword trending, and the majority of people using it are asking why it is trending.

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Post by feralimal »

shadowgovt wrote: post #191
feralimal wrote: post #143

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Think about it. If people have the wrong information, that means that they cannot respond meaningfully. If you are swimming in a world of lies, how will you give the correct answer? UPDATE/EDIT And, in other conspiracy news, I am unable to reply to comments below. "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." This will probably prevent me from replying for a few hours (last time it was 3 hours). Understandably…

If you're swimming in a world of lies, how do you feed yourself? Because not through government; they don't want that job. What do you imagine government's goal to be? Especially in a country like the US where half the elected are trying to shrink it? People believing lies led to a mob storming the US Congress. Do you think the goal of the people in government was to get lynched by a mob? (I use hacker news because i…

How do I feed myself? I don't know what you mean.

Government's goal is to implement whatever governance is decided to be best to manage people.

You say a mob stormed congress. I saw a dramatic event, that justifies a lot of authoritarian actions to be undertaken on others. Including de-platforming the president! Isn't that amazing?

Other dramatic events are perfectly fine, of course, such as the BLM protests.

Why is that? The answer for me is that some protests suit the governance agenda, and some don't. A message needs to be given to indicate rightthink and wrongthink.

I think you must believe that the government (lights, camera) 'action' you see on TV are far more than a simple soap opera intended to distract you. Perhaps you believe that one side is 'good' and the other 'bad'. If that's it, you are falling for the good cop/bad cop routine, and being sold down the river by both sides.

(I don't mind moderation - but what we have on HN is no room for free thinking, consensus opinion wins the day. Was I really posting too much, was I undertaking a DDOS attack? Or was my opinion, if reasoned, unpopular and not to be heard. Let me know.)

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Post by jimbokun »

throwaway201103 wrote: post #176
_y5hn wrote: post #154

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The lawyers refused to lie in court, because their "evidence" was just the lies and empty allegations, which would be a crime to present in court. So they were summarily dismissed, by Trump appointed judges no less.

Then why did they file the cases? Did they not realize that they would need to present evidence under oath?

To lay the ground work for an attempted coup attempt and violent attack on Congress this week.

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Post by jimbokun »

_y5hn wrote: post #162
jimbokun wrote: post #67

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NPR does a good job of presenting the basic facts in their news segments, but their commentary, editorial, and human interest programming is 100% progressive.

Surely better than Regressive, no? https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/chris-99178053752

Progressive is just the label they choose to use for themselves, so it's polite to use that same label when addressing or describing them.

It doesn't really mean that automatically makes their views or policies inherently better than those who disagree with them. It's important to analyze things people say and and investigate their claims for yourself, and not just tribally agree with them on everything they say just because they use an adjective that sounds nice to describe themselves.

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Post by jimbokun »

vladTheInhaler wrote: post #210
MontyCarloHall wrote: post #146

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How about the story that gave serious airtime to the book “In Defense of Looting” [0], which as the title implies, wholeheartedly condoned the looting and rioting that occurred during the summer protests. [0] https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178...

First I would point out that the article start with: "This story was updated on Sept. 1, 2020. The original version of this story, which is an interview with an author who holds strong political views and ideas, did not provide readers enough context for them to fully assess some of the controversial opinions discussed." So they are clearly cognizant of the fact that the content is very controversial. I think it's a…

Do you have any examples of similar stories with a controversially conservative slant they have covered?

Nothing you're saying disputes that, editorially, they have a strong progressive bent.

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Post by dgellow »

xenocratus wrote: post #56
dgellow wrote: post #40

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That's what some of the protesters were screaming. It started trending when people pointed this fact, not as a support for it, but because people were freaking out and started to document/discuss it.

Maybe they could've called it "Don't Hang Mike Pence" to clearly differentiate between the ones who supported and the ones who don't? but then again, I'm not up to date with Twitter etiquette :)

I don’t know how twitter picks up trending theme.
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