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Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by rakoo »

berkes wrote: post #156
reilly3000 wrote: post #129

How does content like child pornography dealt with on peertube?

On lower levels. If you would live in a country where CP is accepted, rent a server or VPS there, get your domain there, get SSL there, and maybe accept only local payments, you'd be 'fine'. As in: nothing will stop you. You can replace CP with 'copyrighted material', or 'political activity' etc. in above. Turned around: the providers, and/or operators of a node (server, instance) are liable. Not the platform. As it…

To go further: there is a configurable cross activity between instances, such that videos and comments published on one side can be seen from the other side, but only if the admins have allowed it. You can't end up accidentally showing unwanted material unless you trusted someone who publishes it, so it comes down to who do you accept in your circle

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by [deleted] »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #149
tastyfreeze wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. Advertising isn't the only solution but it does allow viewers to watch without paying. PeerTube needs content creators to get on board. Having options for monetizing content could encourage creators to use PeerTube.

> Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. That's the problem right there. "Content creators". Protein factories churning out videos for money. Not every platform needs "content creators" - sometimes people with interesting things to share are enough, and these tend to use side revenue to fund their sharing.

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Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

rzz3 wrote: post #133
r00fus wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand I don’t let my kids watch YouTube (even using YT kids and with my account to bypass ads) because they don’t do enough moderation of extremist videos. A few clicks leads to a lot of provably false BS.

With all due respect though, it’s not YouTube’s job to decide what’s appropriate for your kids, and there’s a big difference between what’s appropriate for children and what’s appropriate for the rest of us consenting adults to watch.

It's not about deciding what's acceptable for one's kids, it's about limiting the range of programming so that one can choose if that range is acceptable. This is a difference from traditional channels which have a distinct flavour and are subject to watchdogs (in my country, UK, at least).

No parent has time to watch TV with their child all the time up until they're 18. You might say 'well don't let them watch TV' and that's a valid choice. But other parents want to choose safe ranges of programming and have someone else police stuff to make sure it stays in that range.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by slx26 »

berkes wrote: post #150
riffic wrote: post #60

You can't put the ActivityPub ecosystem back inside its bottle. While it seems like (this is a commonly heard complaint) "no one is there", this is simply untrue. The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. in my mind there will eventually be a tipping point, but it doesn't need to happen immediately. It would be nice to see more media establish a presence there though. edit: one of my favorite PeerTube…

> The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. > > in my mind there will eventually be a tipping point, Why do so many people insist on Growth and Largest, as metrics for 'success'? My local pub is a success. They are not worlds' largest pub. My Mom and Granny don't go there. They don't have parties with millions of people crammed in the place. Etc. Why can't Linux be called 'a success', the very moment…

Your local pub might be trying to offer an alternative to local people staying on their homes watching tv instead. Linux and peertube are trying to offer an alternative to something of a much bigger scale, and most likely with more pressing ethical concerns (they often want to drive people away from the current mainstream option for ethical reasons). Not everyone might share that view, but they are definitely different situations. Not saying you don't have a point, but we can't ignore the differences in context.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by pjmlp »

riffic wrote: post #88
jamesrcole wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. I'm in favour of it, and hope it does well. But at the same time, constant growth itself doesn't mean that much. There's a big difference between slow constant growth and explosive constant growth. Something can constantly grow yet still remain something most people have never heard of. I think Linux on the desktop is a reasonable example of this. The altern…

You know, Linux in general is probably the best example of this. Its success doesn't need to be defined by the desktop. When people bring up desktop Linux, I always bring up that Linux impacts 100% of internet users because of its presence running web applications, and it impacts however many people who use Android or other Linux devices (embedded/IoT). Automotive is even a huge sector these days.

Depends on how one pats their back and the actual reality.

Yes, Android runs on Linux, yet that is 100% meaningless for app developers targeting Android.

Web developers don't care about what OS the browser is running on.

Native Android developers have a Java Framework and Kotlin libraries to work with, which are completely unrelated to Linux.

However they also have the NDK, one would say. Yes, indeed.

So what are the public APIs?

https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/stable_apis

And recent versions will kill apps that try to be clever and access private APIs,

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2016/06/android-ch...

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/07/seccomp-fi...

As for automotive, while Automotive Grade Linux is getting some love, it is still not an option for real time requirements.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by josteink »

the_duke wrote: post #47
xwdv wrote: post #33

Ok so where do we watch videos? Link?

https://joinpeertube.org/instances#instances-list

Looking at the list of instances available, it seems that PeerTube is particularly popular among French-speaking people compared to relative relative popularity of the language itself.

Is there any reason cultural-wise to suggest why that may be?

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by BlueTemplar »

pjfin123 wrote: post #66

I made PeerTube and Mastadon accounts today out of curiosity and was generally impressed. Mastodon especially is quite usable (though obviously many fewer users than Twitter), the interface is as good as Twitter (better if you count not spamming you to login). I posted about my open source project and other random stuff and got several thought out, kind, non-spam replies with a new account. I imagine this is because…

> If Mastodon/federated social networking became popular I imagine there could be "Eternal September" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September) dynamics though.

In a way that already happened. The biggest Mastodon instance is now the infamous 'alt-right' 'chan'-like community Gab.

That you haven't even noticed it shows that Mastodon might be immune to "Eternal September" issues.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by BlueTemplar »

roenxi wrote: post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

The advertiser network is one of the main things that Flixxo has tried to capitalize on, but with YouTube(/Twitch) being so dominant, and them being backed up by Google(/Amazon), it so far doesn't seem to be able to break out of its South American bubble.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Flixxo/wiki/index

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by BlueTemplar »

LockAndLol wrote: post #155
tastyfreeze wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. Advertising isn't the only solution but it does allow viewers to watch without paying. PeerTube needs content creators to get on board. Having options for monetizing content could encourage creators to use PeerTube.

TL;DR We don't need ads. There's a possibility to add donation links and the icon is then visible on every video. Patreon is big for a reason: people actually use it. I'd rather donate to the content creators I want to see thrive than be bombarded with ads for things I don't want anyway. The peertube devs refuse to incorporate monetization beyond donations, but they DO have a plugin system. It's not beyond imaginatio…

Patreon has its own issues. I wished it would be less dominant in the English-speaking donation 'market'.

I was hoping that Flattr would be able to provide a Chromium-free, 'Brave-like' experience, especially with their browser plugin, but if anything it has been losing popularity (despite being years older than Patreon!).

For a reason that escapes me, they even recently decided to officially remove their plugin, so now they can even hardly be differentiated from the other Patreon-likes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15557954

https://github.com/flattr/flattr-extension/

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by pjc50 »

geoah wrote: post #3
spzx wrote: post #2

"A minimalist and efficient peer-to-peer live stream The great feature of this v3 is live streaming, and we are proud to say that it works very well ! ... The main points to remember : The lag (between video maker and audience) varies between 30 seconds and 1mn, as expected ; Depending on the power of the server and its load (number of simultaneous live shows, transcoding, etc.), PeerTube can provide hundreds of simu…

Congrats on a major update! Peertube is something I’ve been trying again and again from time to time. My main issue is finding instances to follow that are properly moderated. A lot of the suggested instances are filled with stolen content, porn, or just very wtf videos. I’m hoping that once peertube provides ways for users to sponsor/subscribe-to creators’ peertube channels that more will either jump ship from youtu…

> lot of the suggested instances are filled with stolen content, porn, or just very wtf videos.

The service that competes with youtube but is less convenient will necessarily be full of content banned from youtube.

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