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Re: PeerTube v3

#61
post #35

I hope this decentralized stuff isn't too late too the party - we need easy to use decentralized platforms ASAP

as they say, the best time to build this hypothetical platform would have been 10 years ago. The second best time is now.

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#62
post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

Is it ideological activism to enforce the terms of service which prohibit the incitement of violence?

To directly answer your question, I would say no - however it is ideological activism to only enforce those ToS for specific services. The #killallmen hashtag has trended more than once on twitter, for example.

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#63
post #32

Can peertube be split into two parts that live on separate servers: one that hosts the web interface and the other that seeds the videos? I would love to use peertube but the webhosting infrastructure I use would never be able to provide the large bandwidth needed for seeding videos. I do have ample bandwidth on non web hosting servers though.

Absolutely, seeding peertube videos would just be a regular webtorrent seedbox.

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#64
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

umm email. Umm, press releases. jeez

CampaignMonitor, the service the Trump organisation used for its mail services, has suspended Trump's access. https://twitter.com/DaveLeeFT/status/1347724204473372672 Press releases rely on press organisations to distribute, which aren't under Trump's control, unlike his previous social media accounts, which had a reach of millions by themselves. I am not trying to impute any kind of values onto these facts. They're…

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#65
post #60

You can't put the ActivityPub ecosystem back inside its bottle. While it seems like (this is a commonly heard complaint) "no one is there", this is simply untrue. The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. in my mind there will eventually be a tipping point, but it doesn't need to happen immediately. It would be nice to see more media establish a presence there though. edit: one of my favorite PeerTube…

Yup, same with whats going on in defi with stable coins… as the existing system crowds people out and benefits fewer and fewer people more, more people will be incentivized to seek out alternatives

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#66
I made PeerTube and Mastadon accounts today out of curiosity and was generally impressed. Mastodon especially is quite usable (though obviously many fewer users than Twitter), the interface is as good as Twitter (better if you count not spamming you to login). I posted about my open source project and other random stuff and got several thought out, kind, non-spam replies with a new account. I imagine this is because of the barrier to entry and that I made my account on a open source focused instance. If Mastodon/federated social networking became popular I imagine there could be "Eternal September" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September) dynamics though.

I wonder if paradoxically federated communication would let you improve the quality of discourse by more proactively banning people. Mastadon works on a federated system where anyone can run they're own "instance" which can then interact with other instances pretty seamlessly. Since people really can leave if they don't like the rules you could be pretty heavy handed with moderation within individual instances to ban obnoxious people or have an invite only system.

PeerTube was a little rougher around the edges, but still very impressive for being pretty new and doing p2p video streaming. There was more lag than YouTube but with decent internet it's fine. The choices for instances aren't great and storage size and bandwith are limited. Storage/bandwith cost money though and that may just be making what's an invisible cost on YouTube visible.

My Mastodon: https://fosstodon.org/@argosopentech

My PeerTube: https://peervideo.club/video-channels/argosopentech/videos

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#67
post #15

I host a site with lots of videos so am curious about this. If I add this and another peertube syncs with mine it sounds like I would still be responsible for bandwidth to their users watching my videos from their peertube? Does any have experience with how much bandwidth is saved from p2p part? Given my content I imagine most users will not be watching same videos at same time so p2p is negligible benefit.

For live streaming, the p2p is very interesting. I will try to link a very interesting test where a lot of server bandwidth was supplied by p2p. That can be very useful. About regular videos, even if only 1 other person is watching, p2p is in effect.

Edit: https://framacolibri.org/t/fonctionnalite-live-retour-dutili...

Check this link. It has a user test the live. One screenshot shows 1 GB from server, 9 GB from peers. 15 GB upload.

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#68
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just in case this is a serious question, without editorialising, the following has happened in the past 48 hours: * Trump has been bannned from Twitter. * Trump has attempted to use the POTUS account, and had those tweets removed. * Trump has been removed from Facebook. * Trump has been banned from Twitch. * The Discord server for the_donald has been banned from Discord. * Parler has been removed from the Google Play…

> For those who support Trump, "deplatforming" is a major concern, as Trump has now lost access to essentially all of his base via social media. There are also a lot of people who are concerned about the dangerous precedent being set, regardless of whether they support this individual or not.

I have a hard time understanding why people feel like this is a new thing. If I start shouting obscenities during a live interview on ANY major media outlet, they will immediately kick me off. Is their refusal really the end of Free Speech?

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#69

You can’t label everything you disagree with as extremism. Advocate for the destruction of Israel on the basis that the Muslim god said so? That’s extremism. Holding different political views? That’s part of being a healthy and diverse society. I wish Americans would grow up and learn to coexist.

The paradox is that when you treat people you disagree with as extremists, you create more extremism.

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#70
post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

> but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network

If your main goal is "How can I make money?" then maybe. And that's one of the huge reasons that YouTube is the mess that it is.

For the rest of us, this is not important at all. In fact, I am happy that there is no advertiser network whatsoever. if I put something on the web, I do not do it because I expect compensation. I am not alone in this sentiment.

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