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Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by roenxi »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #40
roenxi wrote: post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

There already are other networks. There's AppNexus in New York for one. I don't know if they are as strict with their requirements as Google. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppNexus

I'll re-put what I'm thinking:

The technology behind the fediverse is an important brick, so PeerTube 3 is interesting. But the house will only be liveable when someone figures out how companies like AppNexus integrate profitably and successfully into the fediverse.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by ge96 »

Random side note, what if they have a mass-marketed "echo-like" device that is to form a meshnet that's not part of the regular internet. Would it happen?

I get it's not like a trans atlantic line connecting continents and bandwidth etc... but other than jamming it would be "free". The other paranoia is hardware backdoor/software itself eg. AES encryption... seems overkill

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by Sebguer »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #31
wGeF7H8Z59y985y wrote: post #11

You can’t label everything you disagree with as extremism. Advocate for the destruction of Israel on the basis that the Muslim god said so? That’s extremism. Holding different political views? That’s part of being a healthy and diverse society. I wish Americans would grow up and learn to coexist.

The irony of this getting downvoted. And this.

People downvoting you is not censorship.

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Post by qwantim1 »

roenxi wrote: post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

I don’t agree.

It’s an important thing, not the important thing.

This is a great alternative to sharing large video files with others by having someone else just watch what they want of it, if you want to ensure it’s more permanent than- let’s say- Google Music.

If the fear is that an evil Google competitor will come along that will do more damage- this wouldn’t enable that. That would take a serious amount of funding and technology, not a free clone of YouTube without all of the infrastructural backing.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by hug »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #38
hug wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just in case this is a serious question, without editorialising, the following has happened in the past 48 hours: * Trump has been bannned from Twitter. * Trump has attempted to use the POTUS account, and had those tweets removed. * Trump has been removed from Facebook. * Trump has been banned from Twitch. * The Discord server for the_donald has been banned from Discord. * Parler has been removed from the Google Play…

umm email. Umm, press releases. jeez

CampaignMonitor, the service the Trump organisation used for its mail services, has suspended Trump's access.

https://twitter.com/DaveLeeFT/status/1347724204473372672

Press releases rely on press organisations to distribute, which aren't under Trump's control, unlike his previous social media accounts, which had a reach of millions by themselves.

I am not trying to impute any kind of values onto these facts. They're just things that have happened around the deplatforming of Trump, post 6th January.

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Post by cinquemb »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #34
dicknuckle wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

advocating for the overthrow of an entire government or murder of certain politicians based on a conspiracy theory? extremism.

Yep, lucky for you, your fan fiction can use this platform as well!

I can't stop thinking about this… lol

"… What about Twitter? I have no idea what Twitter is good for. But if it flips out every tyrant in the Middle East, I'm interested." - Michael Rogers, Founder, Practical Futurist; Futurist-in-Residence, New York Times Company[0]

http://web.archive.org/web/20140531073143/http://www.cfr.org...

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by Iv »

roenxi wrote: post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

I agree, but think it is the creators retribution piece that is important, and that it does not have to take the form of advertisement.

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Post by [deleted] »

roenxi wrote: post #41
tachyonbeam wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There already are other networks. There's AppNexus in New York for one. I don't know if they are as strict with their requirements as Google. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppNexus

I'll re-put what I'm thinking: The technology behind the fediverse is an important brick, so PeerTube 3 is interesting. But the house will only be liveable when someone figures out how companies like AppNexus integrate profitably and successfully into the fediverse.

[deleted]

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by chrisco255 »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #17
wGeF7H8Z59y985y wrote: post #11

You can’t label everything you disagree with as extremism. Advocate for the destruction of Israel on the basis that the Muslim god said so? That’s extremism. Holding different political views? That’s part of being a healthy and diverse society. I wish Americans would grow up and learn to coexist.

The problem is that a lot of these websites that exist as a safe haven for those who have been deplatformed are cesspools. The early adopters are the most toxic people, and things just go downhill from there. Seriously, go look at parler or voat. Here's an archive the voat post where it's shutdown was announced: https://archive.is/0kOST Open it up and Control-F the n word or any antisemetic slur. That's not the sort…

So you provide the tools for users to moderate their own content,. I understand that my email provider has a spam filter, but it would be unacceptable if I was unable to tweak those settings myself. Why do we expect anything less from social media?
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