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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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It's usually the second lowest security level, just above "Public" and below "Secret".

We used to just call that "confidential".

We still do, but it's rarely used in my experience.

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There was at least one person near her in the video of that women getting shot who was clearly armed with an assault rifle. She may have been unarmed but was storming the chamber with other armed people. The security on the other side had good reason to believe she was a dangerous threat.

The guy with a carbine in the video is a police tactical officer. The main question about this scene is not why the secret service officer shot the woman who defied a lawful order by entering the chambers through a broken window and over the top of a barricade. The question is why she hadn't been shot long before.

Yeah, you're right, the original video I saw was tightly shot and only showed the weapon. There was a similar video released later where those officers where coming up a staircase from behind.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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People who make up their truths that can't be disproven already have all that they need. a missing laptop.

Honestly, those people didn’t even need that. They need nothing founded in reality to make up their conspiracy theories, which is why no argument from reality can weaken them.

One of the most intelligent programmers who has been in the game since the early 80s posted the he is refusing to ever vote again till he knows his vote isn't stolen.

They WON in 2016 House Senate and Presidential and claimed MILLIONS of votes were fraud and the commission setup by Republicans found nothing and went away.

2018 They kept the Senate and lost the house by a smaller number then anticipated

2020 Republicans WON seats though it was expected to lose seats. They "Kept the Senate" just had a run off in Georgia. November 2020 was a good night for Republicans minus President Trump who is a love him or hate him person. Republicans didn't vote for Trump and is why he is out.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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The US Capitol belongs to the people. There are risks from that which fall on the people who serve there. In counties with monarchs there are different traditions expressed by the architecture of public institutions and the seats of power.

Dutch Parliament has a visitors entrance and is (in non-covid times) easily accessible to the public. But for obvious security reasons their private offices are behind these kinds of locked doors. Since a few years I think you have to go through a metal detector to be allowed into the public areas. It makes no sense at all that the US Capitol doesn't have stronger barriers between the public areas and the private off…

The offices are public areas because they serve public officials carrying out public office.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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> Depending how sophisticated your adversary is The videos I saw don't inspire much dread, there, but they may give the laptop to someone that can do digital forensics. Lots of LEOs in that lot. They would be smart enough to stay out of the building, but might have been waiting for someone to come out with something like that. But, as someone pointed out, a lot of the folks wouldn't bother trying to read anything. Th…

They'll probably give it to that computer repair guy in Deleware so he can pull off all of the emails from March of 2021 and somehow lose them in the mail when he tries to send them to Fox News.

you're neck deep in propaganda my friend

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Maybe stealing it also removed a bunch of foreign operative bugs and keyloggers :) "How can we remove this compromised system from the building without letting on that we know " "just have a 'theft' remove it!"

I think it would just be easier if someone "accidently" spilled coffee on it.

"3rd system we've lost this month!"

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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The NASA HQ administration building off 4th and E just south of the Mall has no armed guards posted outside, and there's even a NASA public credit union in the building, which does not require passing through the metal detectors or security post just a couple doors away in the same open lobby. It is visited by plenty of non-NASA, non-government ordinary customers who could easily blend in with official foot traffic o…

The NSA (National Security Agency) and NASA are very different organizations within government.

I misread the OP as NASA, which was careless but I still think the observation is worth noting. Also worth noting is that there is a museum on the NSA campus (National Cryptologic Museum) that anyone can visit without any clearance, and though there are vastly trickier chicanes to contend with compared to the access at NASA administrative HQ, merely visiting the cryptologic museum ushers one past several otherwise highly restricted perimeter zones.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Never heard it called that. What I have heard is something along the lines of "confidential but unclassified" which seems more descriptive to me.

This would never be used by USG. Confidential -> Classified The classification scheme is broadly cut up into Confidential, Secret, Top Secret, and Codeword. There are many modifiers to that such as Five-Eyes, Cosmic (NATO), and Restricted-Data (Nuclear Weapon Design). There are a menagerie of controls that don't rise to classification, like NOFORN, Law Enforcement Sensitive, For official use only, etc.

Code word compartments cut horizontally across the Confidential/Secret/Top Secret hierarchy. I’ve seen stuff that was classified Confidential, but also in a code word protected compartment. I had a TS/SCI/SI/CT/NATO/ATOMAL clearance when I worked for the Defense Information Systems Agency in the Pentagon. Many times over the past 25+ years I have had to correct people who think the compartmented stuff is classified at a level “above Top Secret”, when in fact the compartments just cut horizontally across the hierarchy.

Below Confidential exist other “unclassified” states, like “For Official Use Only” and “No Foreign” (a.k.a., NOFORN). Then, regardless of the classification, you should also have to prove “Need to Know”.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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There was at least one person near her in the video of that women getting shot who was clearly armed with an assault rifle. She may have been unarmed but was storming the chamber with other armed people. The security on the other side had good reason to believe she was a dangerous threat.

There is no such thing as an 'assault rifle'. It is a made up term.

I believe you are thinking of the term “assault weapon”, which was a term invented to help ban semi-automatic military-style rifles, that arguably aren’t significantly deadlier than other less scary looking semi-automatic rifles, but are politically more convenient to ban.

“Assault rifle” is a valid term but it only refers to automatic rifles, which were already effectively banned for civilians.

I don’t know whether that rifle (carried by a police officer) is automatic or semi-automatic.

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