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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Why would it be of the interest of any US citizen for elected officials to have any "secret" ? Full transparency should be paramount.

I suppose then that you'd be happy to make any and all conversations you've had in private during recent years public for all to see.

I've not been sworn to serve The People.

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There needs to be a whole lot of 10+ year sentences handed out. Obviously anyone directly involved in the officer's death will have the book thrown at them and probably never see the outside of a cell again, but all these people need to be made an example of.

Did they release the cause of death? The article I read said he collapsed after everything was done with (or for the most part). Can really pin that on anyone.

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Are we really sitting here comparing storming the capitol building and interrupting the certification of the electoral vote, to CHAZ? Pipe bombs were placed in capital buildings, the insurrectionists were armed and had zip ties. Five people died as a result of these actions. The idea that this is at all comparable to CHAZ, is ridiculous.

> Five people died as a result of these actions. I can guarantee more died as a direct result of BLM "protests" in 2020. Nevermind billions of dollars of damage that fell on the shoulders of minority and lower class communities. I have a hard time imagining that someone concerned about insurrection would unabashedly gloss over CHAZ/CHOP as though it's not a cut-and-dry act of secession. I guess you support secession.

I don't support CHAZ and I never said I did. Claiming to secede for a couple of blocks in a neighborhood in Seattle, is incredibly stupid and dangerous.

My point here is the scope of things, armed insurrectionists stormed the capitol building. Three pipe bombs were recovered and disarmed. What do you think would have happened if the person who laid the pipe bombs had gotten to Nancy Pelosi? Further the President of the united states was pleased by these actions and told them he loved them. He refused to call the national guard and the department of defense initially refused several requests. Somehow, the VP who doesn't have the authority to, called in the national guard. CHAZ was not supported or incited by Joe Biden. And CHAZ did not threaten our democracy or interrupt the democratic process.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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The lady that was shot was attempting to enter a hallway through a window while people in the hallway were pointing guns at her. Just because she didn't have a visible weapon doesn't mean she wasn't a threat. Climbing through a broken window into a hallway protected by a makeshift barricade is itself a threatening action. No one at the head of a mob climbing over a barricade ever did so for innocent and non-threateni…

Note that she was wearing a good sized backpack. The shooter was wearing plainclothes- possibly Secret Service. It appears he was protecting something or someone important. Pence?

Pence would not have been in the House Lobby area, he would've been taken directly from the Senate to a secure area.

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It's not murder if it's legal. If you don't want to get shot, don't invade the seat of government during a constitutionally prescribed transition of power, break through a barricade, ignore a cop's orders and approach a cop pointing his gun at you. Hard, I know.

And you assume that's everything that happened? Did she break through a barrier? People were walking right in.You don't know which group she cam in with. In the various videos, she was trying to get out. They all were. The dude who fired the shot, are you really defending him? A man with no real reasonable threat to his life? None of the people in that shot were shown to be armed. Honest question, what are your views…

She was climbing through a broken window past a barricade that was the last line of defense to where members of Congress were taking shelter. The guard was pointing his gun at her and other people were warning about the danger. I don’t think she should have been shot, but the guard who shot her acted reasonably. It was a failure of the police present, who should have prevented the situation.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Maybe they should have started handing out 10+ year sentences when people were burning down parts of cities.

starting a fire at a Target is not quite the same thing as raiding the US Capitol filled with congress, staffers, and confidential documents (in an effort to overturn a national election).

The difference is one of these buildings provides an important service that the American people can’t live without. The other, of course, is filled with politicians.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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I mean, why are we paying the NSA, if Congress has unencrypted laptops. Literally their role to recommend security methods for encryption of companies and US interests. That is what I wonder every time I’m required to throw away my bottle of water and remove clothes to board a plane.

I believe this activity now falls under the purview of CISA. I read yesterday that all computers issued for Congressional staffers after 2017 have full disk encryption enabled by default.

For staffers, sure. But it's a better-than-even-odds bet that if senators and representatives raise a stink about how secure laptops are hard to use, they get special treatment.

Did you see the picture of Pelosi's desktop monitor? Pelosi was on the House floor at the time, wasn't she? Why wasn't there even a screen lock?

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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I’m sorry but if you’re a couple of police officers in a room full of literal terrorists, of course you’re going to try to be as restrained and friendly as possible. You’re horribly outnumbered. They would be murdered if they tried to take on the crowd. They needed to wait for reinforcements to arrive, and meanwhile do their best to keep the crowd from going fully insane. They managed the situation with very few peop…

So pictures were taken in selfiedefence?

A "tactical retreat" has always been a thing, but 2021 brought us the new concept of a "tactical selfie".

God help us all.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Why would it be of the interest of any US citizen for elected officials to have any "secret" ? Full transparency should be paramount.

That's the theoretical argument Assange pushes. Wikileaks does, however, keeps tons of information about its internal operations secret...

> Wikileaks does, however, keeps tons of information about its internal operations secret...

It shouldn't... as long as its action, as whistleblowers, shouldn't be prosecutable either.

ps: I do think that both Manning AND Snowden (as US citizens) should be pardoned, and charges on Assange (as a non-US citizen) dropped.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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What is a “barely do-not-distribute?”

It's usually the second lowest security level, just above "Public" and below "Secret".

Never heard it called that. What I have heard is something along the lines of "confidential but unclassified" which seems more descriptive to me.
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