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Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by throwawaylolx »

wnevets wrote: post #370
setr wrote: post #224

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I'm basically seeing 4 posts about "kill " and otherwise standard speeches... and then someone later posts screenshots about Jan 20 re-org posted on twitter.. It seems like the basic political discourse you find on twitter, fb and every other social media system, both red and blue posters, at pretty much the same level of intelligence; I'm really not seeing anything there that doesn't equally merit the banning of, we…

How about these [1], are they just basic political discourse find on twitter, fb and every other social media system? [1] https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1347190280492089344

How about these? https://i.ibb.co/5xMfsGL/twitter.png

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Post by SpaceRaccoon »

jude- wrote: post #669
SpaceRaccoon wrote: post #662

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So as we soon as we pass law making it a protected class, that argument will be null and void, correct? Great, I cannot wait!

I wouldn't hold your breath.

That's alright, I'm sure you would have said the same to civil rights advocates in the '60s, too.

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Post by pixl97 »

djsumdog wrote: post #612
lenkite wrote: post #602

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Actions like these where one side fully suppresses the other - one set of standards for themselves and another set of standards applied to people they oppose - are exactly the kind of actions that lead to civil war. Comparing ~70 million Americans to paedophiles...

or comparing ~70 million Americans to Nazis

Well, when they stop acting like fascists. I will.

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Post by modriano »

throwawaysea wrote: post #510
modriano wrote: post #446

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Are you at all worried about the possibility that America could have another civil war because a sufficiently large proportion of Americans are radicalized in uncensored, insufficiently moderated communities? Facebook's own research found “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools” and that most of the activity came from the platform’s “Groups You Should Join” and “Discover” algorithms: “Ou…

Why do you think there was a seditious conspiracy? Do you really honestly believe that a few hundred people marching onto the capitol have the ability to destabilize the country? Remember, we have layers upon layers of armed forces that would end any such attempt very very easily. I think this incident was more realistically just a bunch of amped up protesters who got caught up in the moment and crossed a physical ba…

> Why do you think there was a seditious conspiracy? Do you really honestly believe that a few hundred people marching onto the capitol have the ability to destabilize the country? Remember, we have layers upon layers of armed forces that would end any such attempt very very easily.

You might want to review the facts. The Capitol Police were overwhelmed, our elected representatives, who were in the process of finalizing our election, had to run for their lives, and the layers upon layers of armed forces were not there to protect our representatives. This was a massive security failure and we should never come this close to having our elected representatives taken hostage and executed by insurrectionists. And if that had happened, yes, it would have destabilized the country. How could it not?

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Post by archagon »

djsumdog wrote: post #575
flunhat wrote: post #443

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Exactly -- I love the pearl-clutching tone of these of slippery-slope complaints: "Just you wait, leftists! One day the power of the state shall be visited upon you, and then you'll see! How would you feel if the government censored you, infiltrated your gatherings, and sidelined you from mainstream society? Hmmmmm?"

> pearl-clutching Pearl clutching? Odd. I've heard people say that all summer long about those afraid of the "peaceful protests" turned violent riots that burned down cities and devastated business. This violence was encouraged by all types of politicians on the left and all the big media networks as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQzLcO5qhY A small number of people at an almost entirely non-violent rally, a…

Dude, there were pipe bombs and militia boys with guns and handcuffs. The rest of the crowd aside, I’m pretty sure this was supposed to be a show.

Not comparable. We were close to a congressional decapitation on live TV.

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Post by adad95 »

wnevets wrote: post #56

Here are some of the screenshots [1] from Paler since Wednesday. Please let me know if you think Google is making a mistake or not. [1] https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/13473740754552299...

You can found many other samples in the twitter too. From BOTH sides

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

dragonwriter wrote: post #553
blisterpeanuts wrote: post #382

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It wasn't exactly an attack; it was a bunch of protesters, trespassing into the building during a very important session. Illegal and wrong, mind you, but hardly a terrorist attack that it's being painted as. A group of kooks and extremists who should have, and could have, been kept out by proper policing. The Capitol police really screwed up. Actually in a way it's good that it happened; exposed some major security…

> It wasn't exactly an attack It was exactly an attack > it was a bunch of protesters, trespassing into the building during a very important session. No, it was a large armed mob targeting legislators; as well as many of them stating that legislators were their targets (some saying that they would be back for them), this is clearly shown in the video of the context around Ashli Babbitt getting shot, where the violenc…

She was unarmed, in a group of people who all looked unarmed in the video. None of them was holding a weapon much less training it on the police. Don't make things up.

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Post by bun_at_work »

ng12 wrote: post #653
bun_at_work wrote: post #599

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If that's what the majority of their users want, why shouldn't they ban those services? What better proxy is there for what they should do? Aren't they beholden to their users and shareholders? Is the suggestion that all platforms have to cater to the most vocal minority? That doesn't seem like a good strategy.

> Is the suggestion that all platforms have to cater to the most vocal minority? I think this is what they're doing right now. I'd imagine the average voter doesn't care whether Trump is on Twitter or Parler is on the App Store.

I think you're wrong. These companies are very aware of what their customers/users think (think of all the data!). It's asinine to think that these companies, with corporate boards and a legal mandate to produce profit, would just out some amount of users and reduce revenue. They clearly don't think the amount of users they are affecting with these actions are significant enough to damage them, especially compared to the costs of enabling these domestic terrorists.

These groups are not some good ol boys looking to have measured debate about monetary policy. They are literally trying to kill elected officials and undermine democracy.

More directly, the average voter very clearly seems to care, when you're looking at these actions in an economic light.

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

sillycon-valley wrote: post #572
newacct583 wrote: post #472

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> It wasn't exactly an attack Then why was congress evacuated? Why are multiple people on camera screaming "Where is Pence?!" and threatening to hang him? Why was that cop killed? That's ridiculous, sorry. It was a chaotic attack, sure. And surely there were some people there who just wandered in with the crowd and didn't want to hurt anyone. But this is an attack on congress. Be real.

I'd say it was mostly peaceful, especially compared to the riots. Certainly didn't last as long, it cost less in property damage, less people died, and less neighborhoods burnt down. Maybe we can ban both sides from social media and have no Twitter.

Works for me :)

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Post by auslegung »

lambdaphagy wrote: post #423
auslegung wrote: post #38

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You’re right, there absolutely is a level of coordination. Whenever people historically have stormed the capital building, everyone coordinates to ban them from their platforms. But I agree, this is not the way forward to a healthy, united country

I don't think that's actually true. Weather Underground, for example, bombed the Capitol in 1971. ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/02/a-... ) One of the group's leaders, Bill Ayers, lives unremorsefully in a tony neighborhood in Chicago where he went on to have an influential academic career, dedicating books to political assassins, and mentoring future presidents. This caused a minor kerfluff…

I guess you didn't read my response, I said "Whenever people historically have stormed the capital building, everyone coordinates to ban them from their platforms." Your "rebuttal" lists no one who stormed The Capital Building (sorry should've put that in bigger letters)
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